I have No Earthly Idea what this is......Continued.....

Discussion in 'Paranormal Experiences' started by krzymoose, Apr 1, 2008.

  1. krzymoose

    krzymoose Residual

    At Tims suggestion, and since Taps Main Forum decided to lock my thread which has been going strong since Dec. 06, I will, over the next week, be posting some key points from the original thread on the boards here to continue this research and discussion regarding Vincent, and the experiences around my property. Some of the posts go back a year so be patient and keep in mind. I will be messaging the members from Taps who have been faithful followers of this phenomenon in hopes they will continue with helping me research what Vincent is.

    I've trimmed it just a bit so sorry if some of the posts seem a bit confusing...but hopefully you all will get the jest of it. I couldn't cut out the names of those who posted the info without copying Taps graphics, so I'm sorry to those who wrote them. I didn't want to violate any of taps forums rules.

    Thanks Tim, for allowing this and not caring how big the discussion gets! You could teach those at taps a thing or two.


    I Have No Earthly Idea what this is..... Continued


    Paranormal => Paranormal Topics => Topic started by: krzymoose on December 08, 2006, 11:08:10 PM


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    Title: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on December 08, 2006, 11:08:10 PM
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    I am not sure how to explain this, and honestly since the first moment I saw this "being" I have been almost obsessed with trying to find anyone who has had a similiar experience and coming up with nothing. I use the term "shadow being" because I am at a loss as to what I can relate this to.

    About a month ago my daughter was mentioning something she saw outside our house during the daytime hours. A friend of hers who had been living with us for a couple months also saw this herself but at different times. Neither of them told eachother at first thinking whatever it was, it wasn't real or they were just imagining it. They explained what they saw and frankly in the back of my mind I didn't really think it was anything but a couple of teenage girls being overly dramatic.

    A few days afterward I came home from a trip to the store, it was late afternoon, not quite dusk yet. We live in the mountains and is rather remote. Ready to turn into our drive from the access road, directly in front of me, I would say about 25-30 yards, this being went from one side of the road across to the otherside, crossing my path directly. This wasn't something out of the corner of my eye, I looked at it straight away. This "thing" was about 8 ft tall, was sharply outlined in black, somewhat transparent only in the very center of it, it's back was arched straight up and it was running rather quickly as it crossed in front of me. I refer to it as a type of shadow being but it didn't reflect off of anything and was not blurred in anyway, very sharp defined edges. I could see clearly it was the silhouette of a male, its arms were flapping somewhat and the knees where rising up very high with every stride it took, almost like a sprinter would when doing hurdles. I could see no facial features, and I couldn't see any feet. It didn't turn its head in my direction but had to have known I was there.Â

    My daughter and her friend each saw the exact same thing always running down the road in front of our house very quickly and always heading in the same direction. I have not been able to find anyone, anywhere who has seen the same thing. It doesn't come inside our home and it never stands still. It seems to be going from point A to point B and dissappears as quickly as it appears.....into nowhere I might add. Â

    Now, we dont drink or do drugs and have always had a fairly normal life until this came about. I know we are not crazy as 4 of us have seen this "being" during the day and not one of us can explain what it is doing, where it is from, why is it here and most importantly, what is it exactly.

    Please don't comment that this is a figment of our imaginations because I assure you it isnt. i know what I have seen. Only 2 things about it I know for sure, 1) it's not human, 2) it's not an animal.  I strongly feel it's not from this world either. I don't know if its paranormal or if its alien.Â

    I did contact a paranormal group who have been up here once and have moved this into a full investigation which will be ongoing over the next couple of months. I sincerely hope they get to see this thing as I can't even begin to tell you what it's like to have absolute proof of it's existance and not be able to prove it to anyone. Certainly this isn't the only one of these there is and someone, somewhere must have seen one too.

    I would love to find out if others have had similar experiences. If we get lucky enought to capture this on film, I will be sure to post it. Our camera's are now up and running daily. Please let me know if you know of anyone who has seen this too and any ideas on what it is are welcome.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: candidenton on December 09, 2006, 01:21:44 AM
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    are you near maybe a portal of some kind.
    right now thats the only thing i can think
    of that makes sense to me.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on December 09, 2006, 07:42:29 AM
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    Can you give me an idea as to how I would know if we are close to a portal? Something to look for maybe? We are up in the Northern Sierra Mtns and have several caverns and old mines here as well as sacred indian burial grounds. Thanks for responding


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Spirit_Seer on December 09, 2006, 08:34:51 AM
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    Caves, Mine Shafts and Indian Burial Grounds are all good prospects for portals. LOL.
    Just wondering if this could be a Sasquatch (Big Foot) sighting? (Given the estimated height of 8 ft). Sasquatch have a notorious reputation for mysteriously appearing and then disappearing into "thin air".
    Question: Did all four of you see the being doing the exact same movements and going in the same direction each time or was there any variation in its routine? If it was doing the exactly same actions over and over then maybe it is a residual phenomena?


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on December 09, 2006, 10:11:32 PM
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    Update....
    I appreciate all your responses and am slightly comforted by the fact I am not alone in this. I am relatively certain that this is not a shadow being and is very similar to what Eccentric Sage writes. This "being" is always running in the same style, always in the same general area but we have seen him in a couple different places on our land. So while it's not a mirror image each time, his running style is the same but the exact location varies slightly.
    The paranormal group who has offered to help us with this spent their 2nd day of investigations here today combining their time on our property as well as my neighbor whos land seems to be the ultimate destination of this "running soul" While it didn't rear its unexplained head today for them (that we know of) they did have camera's set up all over for the good part of the day. Who knows, hopefully! They brought a "sensitive" with them who offered some insight as to what it might bel.....suggested for lack of a better word, A "soul" of sort who is temporarily crossing thru from another dimention via portals located around the road where it is seen running. Most like he suggests it has not interest in communicating with us and probably doesnt know we are there and maybe taking a "shortcut" to where ever it is running too. While it somewhat appears like a shadow person the clear definition of features tends to sway it in another direction. He was also relativley sure it is not a haunting but a odd event in which we have no idea how long it's been doing this or how long it's going to stay. They will be coming up to our place on a regular basis each week with more equipment and researchers so I will be updating you on this very odd experience when information becomes available.
    Again I thank you so much fo ryour responses.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on January 10, 2007, 03:17:15 AM
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    UPDATE
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    A couple of days ago I had let our cat outside for her daily "whatever she does" thing and a bit later thought I heard her jumping against the door to be let in which is her usual practice. I went to the front door and looked out to find her calmly sitting on the front step just looking around. Suddenly this being appeared again from the right side of the road and proceeded to run towards the same area as always ( this is the 3rd time I've seen him since my first post on this subject)Â

    Anyway the cat immediately perked up...her ears went straight up and instantly she pounced off the porch running toward this "being". I stood there so surprised as why she was running towards this thing and wondered what was going to happen when or if she caught up with it....what was she going to do then? About 2 second before she reached it, it simply vanished.  I don't ever remember her chasing any human being before so I can't explain why she did this. But it does confirm the fact within myself that animals do infact see these things.

    The paranormal group will be here on January 20th with a new team of specialists in their continuing investigation on our property. I will post any new findings at that time.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: casper on January 11, 2007, 02:02:31 AM
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    WOW Krzymoose :buggyeyes: thats fascinating i cant wait to see an update.One idea that popped into my head is that maybe "he" didnt get to where he was going and is still trying to get there ???I dunno jst an idea.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: onlyelise on January 11, 2007, 10:17:31 PM
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    Maybe it's like a cat with a laser pointer... they have to follow it, they don't know why, and they just can't seem to catch it, so they keep trying over and over!!

    Brooke


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on January 13, 2007, 11:55:18 AM
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    I forgot to add....
    I am trying to get an image of this drawn on paper as well, if I can find someone who can draw it as I describe. I will scan it and post it as soon as it's done.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: redrockgrizzly on January 14, 2007, 08:37:29 PM
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    i really dont post too much on here but your situation is interesting to me. when I saw you were looking for a night camera, I just have to respond. I am a outdoorsman and on one of the sites i visit regularly, a guy has a video camera hooked up to the computer so everyone can see. i guess his camera is in his back yard and he feeds wildlife. everyone that visits his site is able to view it. anytime of the day you can see deer, racoons, squirrels and other wildlife. its pretty neat and everyone can view it. here is the link

    http://www.rd-hc.com/rdhc_deer_cam.htm

    check it out


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on January 14, 2007, 11:40:23 PM
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    Wow Redrock, thats really cool. Thanks for the info.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: redrockgrizzly on January 15, 2007, 12:05:58 AM
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    yeah i thought that was neat too. i wish i had one at my house. what would be great if you did it, im sure alot of people would look at it and maybe see what you are seeing.

    on a side note -- there is a big raccoon eating on the bait pile.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on January 15, 2007, 05:54:24 PM
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    Airplanes? Not sure the association there, maybe you can clue me in. Also it can't possibly be a swarm of knats is the clear form and stance it takes during its stride. It either appears to be running fast like a sprinter or my neighbor says like its riding a bike, but u cant see the bike. Our paranormal group will be here Saturday the 20th with a new collection of experts so i hope to update then. Thanks for all your kind words


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on January 16, 2007, 10:37:00 PM
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    Nope, definately not a shadow from a plane. Couldn't see it through the tree's anyway.Â

    Well, at the risk of showing how untalented as an artist I am, I did sit down and sketch this thing tonite, then I scanned, copied it and filled it in with black tone. Here is a my sketch in combo form...This is about as close as my untalented hands can draw, his arms are much longer and his legs are longer that I drew it seems, also I can't express the unusal and exagerated flapping he does with his arms, but you will get the jest of basically how we see him.



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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on January 17, 2007, 03:41:00 PM
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    It is so odd to me that I have only seen it during the day, then again, why is it we all think the usual time for these events to occur is during darkness? The "thing" does not appear to notice us, it has never looked in our direction. It's almost like a video playing over and over at differnent spots on our land. I know that isn't possible but maybe some sort of residual event which hasn't left yet for whatever reason. I have never seen it from a front view so in my mind it's almost like a cut-out lifesized paperdoll-like image. Thats how sharp the edges are. I use the "lifesize" term loosely as this thing is between 7-8 feet in height. More to come after this weekend. Bay Area Paranormal Investigations will be bringing in another group of specialist for their continued efforts in helping us solve this odd phenomenon. By the way, these people have been so helpful and comforting to us through all of this. I have never wanted to exploit this and they have gone out of their way to accomodate us. What a wonderful group they are, I have gained so much respect for them.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: onlyelise on January 17, 2007, 04:43:09 PM
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    OK, I admit, I'm excited to find out what they find! Good luck, and stay safe!

    Brooke


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: celticwitch on January 18, 2007, 02:43:24 AM
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    Wow. Kinda freaks me out a bit just reading about it.I am looking forward to seeing what your investigators come up with on Saturday. I must admit to being creeped out and looking over my shoulder when I just took the puppy out for her nightly pee!! :eek:wl


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    Post by: robin on January 18, 2007, 06:34:50 AM
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    Wow, this is an amazing story, I can't wait to see what the investigators find. I was just wondering if you are scared of this thing or mainly just curious as to what it is? Does it give off any type of energy, negative or positive? How do you feel after seeing this?


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: robin on January 18, 2007, 09:22:05 AM
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    I wish you luck in getting a picture or video of this thing. Keep us posted, it's really fascinating!


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on January 18, 2007, 01:41:14 PM
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    I'm not sure I saw that part. Is there a link anywhere where I could see it??


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: melissa hyberger on January 18, 2007, 09:41:20 PM
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    hey krazymoose, are you there????


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on January 23, 2007, 11:11:45 PM
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    UPDATE
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    Well the group was here from Bay Area Paranormal Investigations again and with them they brought Dee Disparti who is a well known psychic/medium in the paranormal world. Unfortunately our running guy didn't show for the party, not that I really expected him to. He doesn't seem to show when I am looking for him. They spent a good 7 hours here walking around our property and my neighbors property. What she did say was she feels there are actually 2 or more of these things running around and doesn't feel there is anything evil about them. I still have no answers as to exactly what he/it is only that it's most likely from another dimension which he is crossing over from some portal near here, possibly near the road which I posted a photo of earlier. She did detect a large crescent shaped area of strong activity on the side of our house which she says is being travelled on quite often. She used dowsing rods and I was amazed at how they were showing her where to go to measure the area of activity.  I'm not sure exactly what I need to do with that information as this is all so new to me. I don't know if it's related or now, I suspect not.

    So in the meantime, we are setting up a complete monitoring system outside which will record 24/7 without any time delay and I should get capture his image sometime soon and will be back to post that and any other happenings as they occur.

    I still am looking for someone with a similiar experience and having no luck with that. Should anyone come across one please, please let me know.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: ILUVMYBROWNIES on January 25, 2007, 10:33:58 AM
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    This is the strangest story I have ever heard. Yet, it is so intriguing. I really do wish you luck and please update whenever possible!


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Mat-e-mat on January 27, 2007, 01:17:01 PM
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    I was looking at the picture of Vincent. Why is there smoke drawn on the ground by his feet?

    Regards,

    Matt


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on January 27, 2007, 03:28:23 PM
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    Quote from: Mat-e-mat on January 27, 2007, 01:17:01 PM
    I was looking at the picture of Vincent. Why is there smoke drawn on the ground by his feet?



    It's not smoke, it's just we can't see his feet in detail, he moves pretty fast the bottom part of his is somwhat blurred from the quick motion. His knees coming up real high like a sprinter but can't tell if he has shoes/boots or nothing at all. Weird.... :buggyeyes:


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Mat-e-mat on January 27, 2007, 04:23:59 PM
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    Well, I am beginning to think some paranormal things might be composed of dark matter. Astronomers say that it composes 85% of all material in the universe, but it doesn't typically interact with matter except via gravity. At least no one has seen it interact with matter.

    Regards,

    Matt


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: HOST beckyg on January 27, 2007, 04:34:37 PM
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    Matt, that sounds a bit like the spiritual premise that some of these entities do not share the same source with us. Some "things" might be from other dimensions, subject to different laws of physics but they slip in and out of our visual field on rare occasions.

    Interesting point.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Mat-e-mat on January 27, 2007, 06:06:13 PM
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    There have also been some rather strange findings that the weight of people and animals change slightly when they die. Since dark matter does respond to gravity, it is possible that it could alter their weight.

    Regards,

    Matt


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: chesterbaby on January 28, 2007, 06:31:08 PM
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    That's one thing I've never understood. Why do people, animals seem so much heavier when they're dead? ???


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Spirit_Seer on January 28, 2007, 07:01:18 PM
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    Actually we lose 21 grams of something when we die. Could this be the weight of the soul?? This weight loss of 21 grams has apparently been verified (sorry i don't know by whom).


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Mat-e-mat on January 28, 2007, 08:46:17 PM
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    I actually read about it in a book called "Spook: Science Tackles the Afterlife" (I hope that isn't considered advertising). The book ends on a positive note, but it is quite negative at times, dwelling several pages or even chapters at a time about mistakes people have made about the spirit world.

    Regards,

    Matt


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Greeniz on January 30, 2007, 06:47:53 AM
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    Wow this is absolutely fascinating..and creepy..I know it was mentioned before but I can't help think it's residual..but I was always under the impression residual was the same action.. in the same place.. at the same time..so it really doesn't fit the mold there! I kind of think there is something to this portal theory...please keep us informed and post any pics you might get! Good luck!


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on February 02, 2007, 02:15:39 AM
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    I couldn't see the image from that scene clear enough to determine, but my thought would be no. Its much much larger in size and highly defined. I don't know what it would look like on a thermal device though, wish I could find out. :buggyeyes:


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on February 02, 2007, 07:16:08 PM
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    Bay Area Paranormal Investigations have been up her on 3 occasions so far. We are still waiting for our other 2 camera's to arrive so our new system is not up and running yet. Hopfully by next weekend and yes we will run it 24/7 and this one has a search option which will be performed by tracked movement so we don't have to sit through endless hours of nothing. I'll keep everyone posted as promised..


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on February 03, 2007, 01:47:06 AM
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    I would like to thank each and everyone of you for your help and interest in this unnerving experience of ours. I can't relay enough how much comfort you all have given me through this.  It helps to have theories thrown out there to get our minds working on hopefully finding an explaination for what this is.
    The reason for my heartfelt thanks today is recently I decided to try and post my experience on another forums website mainly to see what kind of information I could get from a different group of people.  Dissappointing is the best word I can come up with.  One person blatently accused me of making up this entire story and asked me for several points of proof to validate my post.
    I am basically a private person, which is one of the reasons why we moved to the mountains. I don't open myself up on a regular basis and I don't belong to many forums, 2 to be exact... this one and the other one I recently posted on.Â
    The people who come here and post opinions and comments, even incarnate :hail: all have my utmost respect...yes you incarnate as you bring a different point to the discussions whether it's a way to provide somewhat of an explaination or your experience and knowledge in knowing that it just is what it is. Having a difference of opinion here at TAPs isn't a bad thing its just part of it.
    Without sounding to emotional with my gratitude, I just really want to thank you all again for not questioning the truth and sincerely wanting to help us. :hail:

    More to come as informaiton becomes available.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: casper on February 03, 2007, 02:53:09 AM
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    Moose,(if i can call u that) ;)u just hang in there and know u have support from everyone.After all we're just as fascinated to see this solved as u are :D


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: celticwitch on February 03, 2007, 03:18:50 AM
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    Thats what we're here for krzymoose. We all come here because we know it's a safe place where we won't be ridiculed for our beliefs or experiences. And we know we have support and help if we ask. So keep on asking and we'll keep on helping and supporting. :bluehearts :prayangel


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on February 03, 2007, 06:30:45 AM
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    Geepers! You guys absolutely rock :trio

    Casper you may call me moose anytime! ;D


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: melissa hyberger on February 03, 2007, 07:36:14 AM
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    hey krzymoose, been reading all this stuff about what you are experiancing. if you think you are crazy then im right there with you girlfriend. ive posted on taps before about these creatures living with my family and i for over 16yrs. of our lives. the apperance of this being that you had sketched is very similar to what has been in my family for over 42yrs. the only differance being that the being we have seen all these years seems to be wearing some sort of hat. it moves quick as lightning, but stays just long enough for you to see it. it seems to me that all this being ever does is observe what we are doing then runs off. there have been three of us see it at the same time. it also likes to follow us wherever we go. i remember one time when i was cleaning my sisters house for her that i felt something watching me. i looked up from vacuming and there it stood in the door way waching me. now mind you, im no where near as brave as most of you are. in fact im pretty much a chickenshit. i just started praying for it to go away because i was there by myself. when i looked back up it was gone. i dont feel worthy enough to give you any type of advise on your current situation. i doubt that you can ever truly resolve such things as this. i just want you to know that you are in my prayers, and that you are not alone......melissa


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: robin on February 08, 2007, 01:01:57 PM
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    Hi there Krzymoose, I'm hoping we hear from you soon. Any new sightings?


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on February 08, 2007, 08:47:14 PM
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    Haven't seen anything in a over 2 weeks, so things are pretty quiet. I am hoping to capture the image now as our camera's went up yesterday, My neighbor is having quite a bit of activity around her house with something happening on her deck, not sure at this point. I talked her into putting a recorder near there. She is the neighbor who has also seen vincent and who's property he is always running too. I'll be back in a few with updates. Thanks for your interest.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: shinglo13806 on February 08, 2007, 11:46:36 PM
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    My mother once complained a lot about a dark shadow in our living room. We were at that time living on the second floor of an apartment block. The paranormal activities under the apartment block (in Singapore, they are called flats and the ground floor is called void-decks, being empty and only the pilings and pillars can be seen. All the letter boxes are situated in the void-decks. The main-power room, life controls and water maintenance are all situated in the room there too).

    She saw it every single day until she could take it no longer and screamed at it. It 'flew' towards my mother and that's the last my mother saw it. Can't really explain it. I have no altar at home even thought I am a Taoist, my father believed that we leave 'work' at the temple and keep it there. Other then seing shadows out the corner of my eyes, I couldn't say I saw one in the day.

    As I have explained in an earlier post somewhere else, Singapore's paranormal history is huge. Japanese held it for 3 years plus. They (They being the soldiers at that time, not to be mentioned as the Japanese people of today, I don't hate them at all) killed lots of people at that time and mass graves or bones (plus ammunition and military equipments) are still being unearthed till today. Singapore is a very small island and my guess is, if there really are demons and spirits, they couldn't really move around too much with such limited space.

    I did saw full apparitions in the night as my so-called 'senses' are more active in the night. I have seen a black shadow during a patrol duty. I swear I saw one but can't explain how anyone would be able to see it because it is so dark and there is absolutely no light. I guess we have to ask around and search the web.

    And do inform us of any findings during the investigations.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: OtherWorld on February 09, 2007, 12:24:50 PM
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    Wow! I've read all 6 pages of posts, and Vincent has definitely captured my interest.

    Have you looked for physical evidence of Vincent's trips through your property? Dust kicked up by his "feet"? Small limbs or leaves moving in the breeze he creates as he passes? Tracks in dirt, mud, or snow? Birds being disturbed and flying away as he approaches (if your cat can see him, I'm guessing other animals can, too).

    I do hope you can share some photo or video evidence with us soon! Keep us posted!


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on February 09, 2007, 10:03:39 PM
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    That's a really good question OtherWorld... I am surprised at myself for leaving such an important part of it out. We have looked for marks or prints made in the dirt on the road where he runs but haven't found any. Also the 4th time I saw him he was running towards the same place but was in the brush between our property and the adjacent property (same side of the lane) This was a strange one because even though he was clearly visibly moving thru the brush...none of the brush was being altered or moving significantly due to his movements. Also either there was 2 of them or he was moving thru what would have been like a revolving door. Meaning, he would run about 20 feet...dissapear...and immediately appear at the beginning, and going thru the same thing again over and over like a broken record.
    I swear if I wasn't looking directly at this I would think it was some sort trick being played but there isn't anyone around in this remote area to do so....So that has been completely ruled out. Don't see how that would be possible anyway
    I sat in my car and watched this over and over for about 3 minutes and for fear of opening my car door and scaring him, I phoned my husband on my cell phone who was inside the house. He went upstairs to the window to see if he could get a better view but couldn't. Then he simply stopped. NO markings whatsoever in the brush.. Strange...Strange..Strange, Indeed


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    Also I forgot to add, I will be going thru 2 full days of taping all day Saturday...keeping my fingers and toes crossed!! :eek:


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    I would certainly like to see them, if you get anything that is.


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    Quote from: krzymoose on February 09, 2007, 10:05:47 PM
    Also I forgot to add, I will be going thru 2 full days of taping all day Saturday...keeping my fingers and toes crossed!! :eek:


    We are all waiting with baited breath. Good luck with the tapes. :)


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    Sounds to me like a case that may involve a cryptoid of some sort possibly of a human nature kinda like bigfoot, or something to that nature. Not saying it is bigfoot, cause from your description its more humanoid than cryptid, maybe even of an alien form. Have you ever heard of the Beast of Bray Road. It could be something of that nature. It's quite unusual though how you now have survelience and nothing has came up, not on your part, but on "it's" part. Almost as if it had some intelligence. Which is more reason to believe that it knows your around trying to film it.

    Have you kept up with the time and dates in which you saw this thing, if it's any type of residual being than more than likely on those dates, times, and places you'll more than likely see it. You said you seen it in three different spots if I remember correctly. In those three spots draw an imaginary path, and cover that area with cameras. If it is residual than you should be able to capture it, and that would be an amazing feet. Take notes on every little detail possible on each sighting. Weather conditions, time, moon phase, wind direction, day of the week, day of the month, etc etc. Make sure you don't leave anything out, and you will soon capture it, and I have to say this is a very unbelievable story thanks for sharing it.


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    Quote from: spi-francisco on February 10, 2007, 04:53:44 AM
    Sounds to me like a case that may involve a cryptoid of some sort possibly of a human nature kinda like bigfoot, or something to that nature. Not saying it is bigfoot, cause from your description its more humanoid than cryptid, maybe even of an alien form. Have you ever heard of the Beast of Bray Road. It could be something of that nature. It's quite unusual though how you now have survelience and nothing has came up, not on your part, but on "it's" part. Almost as if it had some intelligence. Which is more reason to believe that it knows your around trying to film it.

    Have you kept up with the time and dates in which you saw this thing, if it's any type of residual being than more than likely on those dates, times, and places you'll more than likely see it. You said you seen it in three different spots if I remember correctly. In those three spots draw an imaginary path, and cover that area with cameras. If it is residual than you should be able to capture it, and that would be an amazing feet. Take notes on every little detail possible on each sighting. Weather conditions, time, moon phase, wind direction, day of the week, day of the month, etc etc. Make sure you don't leave anything out, and you will soon capture it, and I have to say this is a very unbelievable story thanks for sharing it.


    Thanks for your post spi-francisco,
    I've never heard of the beast of Bray road but did google it after I read this and don't really think it could be anything similiar to that. I wouldn't rule out an alien of sort, and have thought about that. Bigfoot would't apply either.
    We have kept up with the dates, times and weather conditions throughout. It seems to come mostly after it's been raining, don't know why. The time of day has varied and we can't seem to find a pattern with any of our information combined. We also have tracked the areas as you say and have already set our camera's up to cover just that area, so we are clearly ahead of you there. We also have ordered a couple more cameras to hook up to our neighbors house so we can get even more coverage.
    I went thru the first 2 days of tapings, and didn't see much. We had some blank spots on the film so I think we need to do some tweaking and testing on it which we will be doing over the next few days. I have a friend who is very familiar with these things so he'll be here to assist us and make sure we get it right. Our last camera stopped working completely which was strange since it wasn't very old at all.
    As far as this story being unbelievable, I agree with you...I only hope to post my findings soon and continue to pray for answers.
    Final note....haven't seen it in about 3 weeks now..


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    Post by: casper on February 16, 2007, 04:36:01 AM
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    *waits patiently for vincent sightings* :bath: ;)


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    Hi Casper ;D
    Haven't seen the devil in a while, then again I haven't been home much. We're having a bit of a problem with the camera's and getting them all linked up properly, working on it all day today tho, hopefully I can provide a live link for everyone to watch when I'm not here. I'll be back with info when it's available.


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    Good luck with the cameras, A live link would be awesome...I know what I'll be doin.. :trio


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    Post by: krzymoose on February 16, 2007, 07:12:28 PM
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    The disc that was sent to me with this was cracked so another is being sent.....
    Quote
    black cloud looming overhead as I type
    My update from the shipper says to expect it monday or tuesday. :angrysmiley


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Epona on February 17, 2007, 02:17:53 PM
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    waiting is always harder when you are excited....


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    Need some help if anyone can provide me with it or where to go. I need to find out information on how to set this up on a live feed. The booklet that came with the system doesn't have that info in it and I don't trust every internet site out there. If anyone can refer to me to a place where I can obtain the necessary information It would be to all our advantage. Thanks in advance.


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    Quote from: krzymoose on February 19, 2007, 08:50:27 PM
    Need some help if anyone can provide me with it or where to go.  I need to find out information on how to set this up on a live feed. The booklet that came with the system doesn't have that info in it and I don't trust every internet site out there. If anyone can refer to me to a place where I can obtain the necessary information It would be to all our advantage. Thanks in advance.

    You could ask some of the techie guys and go to the equipment thread. They have been a great help to me when I need help with equipment, cameras and what not. I wish I could help you but that is one thing I know nothing about.


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    Post by: krzymoose on February 24, 2007, 02:37:40 AM
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    Sorry I haven't been back with any updates, we have been snowed in and not much visual going on here right now. We fixed our camera's and are up and running again. Still checking into the live feed idea. Hope you all have a great weekend. I know what I'm doing!! :buggyeyes:


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: spiritfinder on February 24, 2007, 11:36:51 PM
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    I read this whole thread and i must say i have never heard of this before and i cant wait for your updates i really hope you get this whatever it is on camera if you ever need to get a new camera you might try Cabelas.com they sell cameras i use them in an area before i go hunting there


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    Post by: Epona on February 25, 2007, 07:07:09 AM
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    No one needs a reason to shop at Cabella's...hehehe


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    Quote from: Epona on February 25, 2007, 07:07:09 AM
    No one needs a reason to shop at Cabella's...hehehe

    money is much more well spent at Nordstroms :devil
    Sorry...will stay on topic, couldn't resist


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Quote from: krzymoose on February 25, 2007, 08:03:01 AM
    money is much more well spent at Nordstroms :devil
    Sorry...will stay on topic, couldn't resist


    It happens.... :D


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: casper on February 26, 2007, 03:08:46 AM
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    OMG Moose :buggyeyes: what have u started??? Good Luck as always :banana


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    Post by: spiritfinder on February 26, 2007, 06:30:20 PM
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    shhhhh don't tell my hunter husband that...He doesn't need another reason to shop at Cabela's!!!



    I wont tell but then you really never need a reason to go too cabela"s


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on February 27, 2007, 01:04:37 AM
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    FINALLY AN UPDATE

    Ok, I have a bit of news to report, some might disappoint a few of you and for that I'm sorry.Â
    First of all I found out today that "Vincent" isn't running solely on our property. My daughter saw him run across the main road this morning while she was waiting the bus to arrive which takes her to school. We haven't seen him out front in about a month so were wondering if he was gone. The road is very close to us as It comes off the main highway and leads up to our private road and is within visual distance from our back deck. The main road I speak of isn't a main thouroughfare but one that is a county road and paved.
    Secondly, we do have 2 of our cameras running but the weather has been so nasty up here that not much is seen as of yet. I did some checking into the live feed idea and found out that just too much information can be obtained from that and I don't want to jeopardize our security.  I'm uncomfortable with someone finding out our location for obvious reasons but will absolutley post any video or still photos should we be lucky enough to get it. I'm still confident that sooner or later it will show up on our film.

    This week we will be trying to get a camera or two hooked up at the edge of my neighbors property so we will have every inch covered. This is much more work than I expected it to be :rollpin but I'm getting there......More later and thanks for those of you who remain as hopeful as I do....


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    Post by: Epona on February 27, 2007, 01:13:55 AM
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    Well, I, for one, am waiting patiently..


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    Post by: casper on February 27, 2007, 03:25:30 AM
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    Im with u Apona :coffee


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: robin on February 27, 2007, 06:07:57 AM
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    Well Moose, at least you know he's still around. Good luck, I'm waiting patiently!


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: casper on February 27, 2007, 07:34:15 PM
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    Quote from: casper on February 27, 2007, 03:25:30 AM
    Im with u Apona :coffee

    OMGOSH sorry i jst noticed i spelt ur name wrong Epona :-[


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    Post by: Epona on February 27, 2007, 07:48:36 PM
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    Haha.. I wasn't going to say anything... It stands for Epon-ista


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: chesterbaby on February 27, 2007, 08:21:50 PM
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    CAn't wait!! ANd good luck :singsham


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: merlynsapprentice on February 27, 2007, 09:08:31 PM
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    "Vincent" sounds very intriguing. I'm not sure I could even hazzard a guess without actually seeing "him". But he does sound like some sort of "shadow creature" I have experienced these myself, but not in the detail that you are describing. What I do find interesting is that he sounds like an etherial being, but he turned on your motion sensored lights. And if no one answered this before as far as your cat, they are some of the best detectors of paranormal activities, mine are always chasing the pixies in my house. The Egyptians believed cats would not only be companions to the dead, but would guide and protect them on there way in the afterlife. I do not,however, think he is a Sasquatch, or Mothman, Cryptid, possibly, etherial being, even better chance, but I do not know. If you haven't yet I would find a historian or some kind of historicalrecord of the area, see if there was any strange occurences in the mines, or any Indian folklore for the area. And of course keep the cameras rolling, and good luck. I will definatley keep watching this thread.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: kyates on February 28, 2007, 09:53:00 AM
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    Glad to hear that "Vincent" is still around. I am sure with some patience you will capture something on your cameras.
    I can't hardly wait for that to happen. This is so exciting, and something I had not heard of before. Lots of luck :singsham


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Quote from: casper on February 26, 2007, 03:08:46 AM
    OMG Moose :buggyeyes: what have u started??? Good Luck as always :banana


    Why Casper....what are you talking about?? :soccer ;D


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Mikitsu on February 28, 2007, 06:38:44 PM
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    I heard that "Shadow People" can be omens of good and bad, keep on your toes. I see them in my apartment once in a while out the corners of my eyes. So now I keep a mirror behind my computer monitor. I wish you well.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    So now I keep a mirror behind my computer monitor

    I am guessing the mirror would be for trying to see the shadow person? I find that when I am seriously trying to see this thing, it never shows itself. Then again, I am not sure it even knows we see it.
    I had a thought and wanted to run it by all of you. I am curious as to why "vincent" was seen on a different road. Where my daughter saw him is just a tad east of us (a few hundred feet) and I am wondering if the shift of the earth will move the location of a portal or vortex. Meaning will he gradually move to the east? Its stretching but I was a little surprised at the new location. Assuming that this sighting is an interdimensional being of sort...


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Quote from: Mikitsu on February 28, 2007, 06:38:44 PM
    I heard that "Shadow People" can be omens of good and bad, keep on your toes. I see them in my apartment once in a while out the corners of my eyes. So now I keep a mirror behind my computer monitor. I wish you well.


    It is believed by the chinese that mirrors can either trap ot repel bad stuff. Placing a mirror might be a good method as a sentinel deivce but, it may also let you see some other stuff, scary stuff. You had to be prepared for the stuff you do.

    Always keep these in mind; "Failing to plan is planning to fail." You must planned for a long term effect for the items you employ to use. I do not know your main purpose or why you decided to put the mirror as you wanted. I am not saying you are wrong or whatever, just giving some opinions. Nothing offensive.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: *~Patty~* on March 01, 2007, 08:45:13 AM
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    Could it be more than just one? :-\


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Quote from: *~Patty~* on March 01, 2007, 08:45:13 AM
    Could it be more than just one? :-\


    Anthing is possible at this point of our understanding...


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Wondering on March 01, 2007, 11:03:13 AM
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    Quote from: shinglo13806 on March 01, 2007, 07:41:41 AM
    It is believed by the chinese that mirrors can either trap ot repel bad stuff. Placing a mirror might be a good method as a sentinel deivce but, it may also let you see some other stuff, scary stuff. You had to be prepared for the stuff you do.

    Always keep these in mind; "Failing to plan is planning to fail." You must planned for a long term effect for the items you employ to use. I do not know your main purpose or why you decided to put the mirror as you wanted. I am not saying you are wrong or whatever, just giving some opinions. Nothing offensive.



    Should the mirrors be placed a certain way?


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    Could it be more than just one?

    Funny you ask that.....the medium BAPI brought up here stated she was getting there was 2 of these things and they are tagging eachother, (would explain the disappearance and immediate reappearance I saw about a month ago)


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Mikitsu on March 01, 2007, 10:37:20 PM
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    I haven't seen any shadows lately, but I have been having a lot of power trouble. Mostly power shortages like lights fading or one side of my living room shutting off. Cold spots once in a while. Lets hope the "shadow people" bring you good fortune. :sirish


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Quote from: Wondering on March 01, 2007, 11:03:13 AM

    Should the mirrors be placed a certain way?


    It should not face the door, should not face in a way it will reflection another room's image, should be in direct reflection to a washroom/bathroom. Do not face the beds. Try not to face a dark corner, in fact I would advise against using a mirror, if you are using it to guard against 'activities', it would only draw their attention.

    Chinese usually place the mirror, including some other items in a manner that would cause a reaction of the overall environment, facing the direction of the 'bad' angles and it should be outside the house, not inside. I do not know how guys guys do it over there but that is what I was taught in 'Taoistgarden'.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: billyguitar on March 02, 2007, 01:39:50 PM
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    Somehow I've missed this thread until now. I really hope you can catch a picture of this runner!


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    Personally...I would not be trying to interact in any way with this thiing. It seems rather benign, but when things like this start appearing, other more sinister and frightening manifestations can follow. Investigators sometimes stir things up and then they get a lot worse. If it were me, I'd try to ignore it.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: kyates on March 07, 2007, 07:32:49 AM
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    Quote from: Mikitsu on March 01, 2007, 10:37:20 PM
    I haven't seen any shadows lately, but I have been having a lot of power trouble. Mostly power shortages like lights fading or one side of my living roo
     
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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    I haven't seen any shadows lately, but I have been having a lot of power trouble. Mostly power shortages like lights fading or one side of my living room shutting off. Cold spots once in a while. Lets hope the "shadow people" bring you good fortune. :sirish


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    Quote from: Wondering on March 01, 2007, 11:03:13 AM

    Should the mirrors be placed a certain way?


    It should not face the door, should not face in a way it will reflection another room's image, should be in direct reflection to a washroom/bathroom. Do not face the beds. Try not to face a dark corner, in fact I would advise against using a mirror, if you are using it to guard against 'activities', it would only draw their attention.

    Chinese usually place the mirror, including some other items in a manner that would cause a reaction of the overall environment, facing the direction of the 'bad' angles and it should be outside the house, not inside. I do not know how guys guys do it over there but that is what I was taught in 'Taoistgarden'.


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    Somehow I've missed this thread until now. I really hope you can catch a picture of this runner!


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    Personally...I would not be trying to interact in any way with this thiing. It seems rather benign, but when things like this start appearing, other more sinister and frightening manifestations can follow. Investigators sometimes stir things up and then they get a lot worse. If it were me, I'd try to ignore it.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Quote from: Mikitsu on March 01, 2007, 10:37:20 PM
    I haven't seen any shadows lately, but I have been having a lot of power trouble. Mostly power shortages like lights fading or one side of my living room shutting off. Cold spots once in a while. Lets hope the "shadow people" bring you good fortune. :sirish

    This is alarming to me, as I was having electrical problems, like light blubs burning out all the time, etc. And my house burned to the ground while I was at work!!!
    Please have your electrical system checked out.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: questionmark on March 07, 2007, 07:34:01 AM
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    Quote from: kyates on March 07, 2007, 07:32:49 AM
    Â This is alarming to me, as I was having electrical problems, like light blubs burning out all the time, etc. And my house burned to the ground while I was at work!!!
    Please have your electrical system checked out.


    that's terrible - I'm so sorry. :'(


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    Post by: kyates on March 07, 2007, 07:42:37 AM
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    Thank you! It was 2 years ago, but still hard to get over. I am just glad I was at work. It was at around 4:00 am.
    Don't want anyone burning up in the middle of the night!! :buggyeyes:


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    Post by: questionmark on March 07, 2007, 07:45:40 AM
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    I can't imagine getting over that very quickly...I'm so glad for you that no one was hurt! I'm glad you posted this too, because I think it's important for people to know and understand that they have to really look very carefully at this type of thing. :(


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on March 08, 2007, 11:13:39 PM
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    Quote from: Spockie on March 06, 2007, 06:09:17 PM
    Personally...I would not be trying to interact in any way with this thiing. It seems rather benign, but when things like this start appearing, other more sinister and frightening manifestations can follow. Investigators sometimes stir things up and then they get a lot worse. If it were me, I'd try to ignore it.Â

    I can't agree with you more, just the thought of trying to open a dialog with this thing sends chills down my spine. Not that it appears sinister, but because of what is completely unknown about it. I don't even know if this thing can talk,, then again, I don't plan to find out!!

    That being said.....


    I have an UPDATE

    I don't know if any of you have read my other thread in the equipment and advise room, we've had quite the dissapointing experience trying to keep our cameras rolling. I saw Vincent yesterday morning, and my camera's were running at the time, covering the area. In my excitement I ran into the room where I keep the set up going and realized the monitor was off so I tried to get it back up to be able see how the view was looking.  Something happened to the power source on the monitor, which is brand new, and it just popped when I tried to turn it on, now it wont even power up.....it amazes me how many problems I have had with this monitoring system (my 2nd one) :angrysmiley
    but Im hopeful that his image is somewhere on the VCR tape, So I will be filtering though the last 2 days of taping looking for him. It would have been to easy for the date and time to appear on tape, thought it was set up that way but it's not showing.Â
    I am almost scared to find it, not sure what I am going to do with this when it's discovered or what the knowledge will bring us. Does anyone think there is anyone out there who can explain what this is to us? Or will everyone react just as we have, with confusion. :rollpin

    So back to the mini TV and VCR tape, hopefully the guys in the equipment area can help me get the VCR contents onto my notebook for editing so I can get this into a viewable file... Thanks again to all of you who remain as hopeful as I am.. :hail:


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Parkman on March 09, 2007, 04:23:52 AM
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    There is a theory that since the use of atomic weapons as in Hiroshima that these weapons and experiments
    with nuclear fision and high powered partical beams, have opened our world up to other dimensions and beings.
    These beings and entities came through during these tears in time and space and these openings cannot be shut.
    There may be a coorelation between the types of shadow style people you saw and this very thing.

    Are there any sources of high power in your area like microwave towers,Military installations,testing facilities ?

    Just wondering.
    Parkman
     
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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: mosaint on March 09, 2007, 06:58:18 AM
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    This is all very interesting. I hope we get to see something. Thanks for the update


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Vacant Planets on March 09, 2007, 08:51:51 AM
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    Hi! first of all: I'm new!
    now to get back on-topic

    i've read through the entire thread and I can't tell you how interesting this is to me.
    I really hope you will catch something. I believe your claims


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Are there any sources of high power in your area like microwave towers,Military installations,testing facilities ?

    I'm not really sure if there are, we don't have many wires around other than the phone, but we do live near the old mining shafts and caves which historically goes far back to the earliest settlers coming to this area. If there are any military installations I am not aware of them, then again, the military doesn't always let us know these things.
    Your theory is very interesting, by chance is there a website where I can read more about this?
    Thanks for posting

    And Welcome to the board Vacant Planets!! Your in a good place, the people here have been so helpful and kind, I can't imagine going anywhere else for help!


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Quote from: krzymoose on March 09, 2007, 04:52:54 PM
    I'm not really sure if there are, we don't have many wires around other than the phone, but we do live near the old mining shafts and caves which historically goes far back to the earliest settlers coming to this area.Â


    This is kind of an obvious question. Have you tried travelling around your grounds with an EMF detector or even a compass?

    Regards,

    Matt


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    All this is very new to me, you have to remember that before this thing appeared on my property, I didn't really even watch ghost hunters let alone know anything about the EMF meters, and other equipment, so please pardon my lack of knowledge on this subject. How would I use a compass and what would it tell me other than the direction I am facing.
    I can tell you that the psychic which BAPI brought up here used dowsing rods which shocked the :devil outta me, I couldn't believe how they moved.
    Can you elaborate more on what I would need to do? That would be helpful


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: OtherWorld on March 10, 2007, 05:13:08 PM
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    I hope Vincent shows up on your recording! How exciting! I hope you will be able to share it online with us. Stay safe!


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Vacant Planets on March 11, 2007, 05:28:08 AM
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    Quote from: OtherWorld on March 10, 2007, 05:13:08 PM
    I hope Vincent shows up on your recording! How exciting! I hope you will be able to share it online with us. Stay safe!


    I second that opinion. c'mon vinnie! show urself :mrt


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Vacant Planets on March 21, 2007, 07:33:50 AM
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    no more update on the section? ???
    I'm curious!


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Epona on March 21, 2007, 02:18:23 PM
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    Me too....


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: kyates on March 22, 2007, 08:55:11 AM
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    Where are you Vincent? ???


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: det28 on March 23, 2007, 09:30:52 AM
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    I just found this thread and was fascinated by it. As someone in an early thread stated, there seems something oddly familiar about the description. I haven't been able to find anything yet on my searches, but I will keep looking. I am also anxious to see any video that you get.
    det28


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Hummingbird on March 23, 2007, 02:27:13 PM
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    Yes krazymoose, please don't leave us hanging, has Vincent stopped appearing?


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on March 24, 2007, 09:59:14 PM
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    I'm sorry for not updating, it's just that I dont have the info yet. The VCR recordings were copied to the DVD so I could view on my laptop and for some reason they are not dated or timed. so I have no idea what day is what. So I have been going thru every days recordings but can only do so much at a time as it bothers my eyes. Please someone come up with a different way to view these!!!!! :rollpin
    I am pretty certain I have him recorded and am looking. I promise the minute I get it, you all will be the first to know! I promise!!


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    That's a good idea, to let others help somehow. You may miss things on a laptop also. I know for instance, that my monitor at home is an old style 19" CRT and it has a much better picture than my 20" thin monitor at my office. I also wouldn't think the date/time stamp is all that important unless you want to establish a pattern. The evidence is what's important.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Vacant Planets on March 25, 2007, 01:02:05 PM
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    ooh i'm getting curious again :D


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: faerygoddess on March 25, 2007, 04:46:04 PM
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    i'm so glad i read this, because about 4 years ago my boyfriend and I were driving home from our date and we BOTH saw something tall and black run extremely fast from one side of the road to the other. It looked like it had no feet and it was going so fast that it looked like it was riding a bike except for the was no bike. I asked my boyfriend if he saw it and he said yes so i knew i wasnt crazy. He wanted to chase it so he turned down the road that we so it go down and it wasnt there. we both clearly saw it and described it to each other. we went home and decided never to tell anyone. it sounds exactly what Krzymoose saw. i dont know what it could be but we live in Kannapolis NC and it was in the country.

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    Quote from: faerygoddess on March 25, 2007, 04:46:04 PM
    i'm so glad i read this, because about 4 years ago my boyfriend and I were driving home from our date and we BOTH saw something tall and black run extremely fast from one side of the road to the other. It looked like it had no feet and it was going so fast that it looked like it was riding a bike except for the was no bike. I asked my boyfriend if he saw it and he said yes so i knew i wasnt crazy. He wanted to chase it so he turned down the road that we so it go down and it wasnt there. we both clearly saw it and described it to each other. we went home and decided never to tell anyone. it sounds exactly what Krzymoose saw. i dont know what it could be but we live in Kannapolis NC and it was in the country.


    Thank you for submitting that info...it sounds exactly like what we see. Could you tell what gender? Ours is clearly a male form. The form he makes resembles riding a bike or sprinting and your right, he runs very fast. I would love to hear more, feel free to send me a private message if you like. I am so curious and thankful that maybe we arent the only ones who have seen this.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on March 26, 2007, 02:30:59 AM
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    Quote from: Extralien on March 24, 2007, 11:30:36 PM
    Maybe a team effort would be helpful.
    post what you can onto the net, then give us the link and maybe some of us could look too.

    just an idea.

    We might see something you miss.


    I have no idea how to do that..YIKES. Again, each DVD is only about 2.5 hours so could I clump them together somehow to create a link. I'm pretty good with the computer with the exeption of creating movies or links such as this. Help would be great!


    Quote from: billyguitar on March 25, 2007, 09:26:33 AM
    I also wouldn't think the date/time stamp is all that important unless you want to establish a pattern. The evidence is what's important.


    The reason the date and time stamp is important to me in this case, is I know when I saw it, making it easier to pin down which disc it is on. Right now I am about ready to cry with frustration over this!! :'(


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: billyguitar on March 26, 2007, 08:27:37 AM
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    I see what you're saying about the time/date.
    Nothing frustrates me more than trying to get a computer to do something new. Someday the things will be intuitive enough that anybody can run one. Who knows how many more years that'll take!


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: jskel35 on March 26, 2007, 11:44:10 AM
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    Have you done any research- police records, local library or the such? Maybe there was an accident in the past in your area and this may be an explanation.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: michaeljoyce on March 26, 2007, 01:14:38 PM
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    i have no clue what it could be.sounds scary


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: faerygoddess on March 26, 2007, 02:27:50 PM
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    when i saw it i remember thinking it was a man and so does my boyfriend. i'll PM you with some more info and questions when i get the chance.

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    Post by: det28 on March 27, 2007, 09:49:46 AM
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    I've still been trying to find something similiar by doing searches. I am pretty sure that I've read something that sounds alot like what you're experiencing somewhere.
    det28


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: robin on March 27, 2007, 11:52:39 AM
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    I have been trying to find simliar experiences from different sites and I haven't found one yet. This is such an intriguing subject, I was hoping to read of other stories, but nothing so far, please keep us updated.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: tonya england on March 27, 2007, 12:37:07 PM
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    Quote from: krzymoose on December 09, 2006, 07:42:29 AM
    Can you give me an idea as to how I would know if we are close to a portal? Something to look for maybe? We are up in the Northern Sierra Mtns and have several caverns and old mines here as well as sacred indian burial grounds. Thanks for responding

    i have had a similar thing happen to me i live in a appartment. for the first 6 months i kept seeing this shadow , i kept trlling my husband and he told me i was full of iit, then the kids started seeing it , so he started staying up and looking for it. he thought he seen it so he said show your self, and it peeked around a corner and looked right at him it was black and and you could not seethrough it it was about3-4 feet tall . my kids wouldn't sleep with the lights off. i had my husband and his mother pray in my house and tell it to leave .
    seen it a time or two after ,now the house is peaceful and back together


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: billyguitar on March 27, 2007, 01:52:41 PM
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    What you're seeing is more of a classic black shadow. TAPS videoed these in the St. Augustine lighthouse and at the Blue Moon Brewery.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on March 27, 2007, 08:46:02 PM
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    All the eyewitness descriptions of shadow people only remotely resembles this thing. From what I have gathered on the net including drawings and detailed descriptions the shadow people are usually solid black and rarely do I find a story where its just outlined with a transparent center and oddlly running in such a strange form. I can't get across exactly what this thing looks like only that it doesn't look like anything I have seen so far. It seems simple to me to catagorize most experiences people have had, I just am at a loss for where to put this. I know what I have seen and I really don't think its a shadow person. I openly admit I could be wrong but until I can get this up for people to see it will remain in the speculation catagory.

    For those who are looking for similiar stories.....Please..Please keep looking as I am so interested in what you may find.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Mat-e-mat on March 28, 2007, 04:17:06 PM
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    Quote from: krzymoose on March 27, 2007, 08:46:02 PM
    All the eyewitness descriptions of shadow people only remotely resembles this thing.Â


    I don't know that the shadow-person descriptions are all that uniform. What is different about Vincent?

    Regards,

    Matt


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: fotophreak on March 28, 2007, 07:25:00 PM
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    I HAVE SEEN SHADOW PEOPLE SINCE I WAS A KID. I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS MY IMAGINATION UNTILL I GOT OLDER. PLEASE KEEP US POSTED ON WHAT THEY FIND. :buggyeyes:

    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Quote from: Mat-e-mat on March 28, 2007, 04:17:06 PM
    I don't know that the shadow-person descriptions are all that uniform. What is different about Vincent?




    I really have a hard time explaining this, partially it was my very first instinct the moment I saw it, second, I have read countless stories about shadow people and this just doesn't fit the bill. Again I say I could be wrong and I really don't think anyone would know exactly what it is but the differences I will list as I view them.
    Shadow people are seem, for the most part standing over someones bed, crossing a hallway, out of the corner of ones eye, and seem to be a solid black, somewhat blurred mass with no features at all, hense, the term "shadow"Â Â the encyclopedia gives us this
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    A shadow is a region of darkness where light is blocked. It occupies all of the space behind an opaque object with light in front of it.
     That being said, a shadow edge is not sharp.  This being, is only outlined, best way I can describe it is if you took a 8 ft tall piece of cardboard and drew a sharp outline of someone and cut it out in life, or larger than, form. Just an outline if you will. "Vincents" edges are clearly defined to where I could see the shape of what would be hair. His motions are over exagerrated, almost cartoonish. It's only my opinion and gut feeling that it isn't the same thing and I get frustrated trying to come up with the correct terminology to describe him.. You can refer to it as a shadow if youfeel that strongly about it, but seeing it in real life myself I just have to stand by my impression that it is something different.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: billyguitar on March 30, 2007, 10:24:03 AM
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    The descriptions you posted earlier and then the drawings really describe your runner very well.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: LucidNight on March 30, 2007, 04:19:43 PM
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    good evening all, and your all viewers of my first post! and to all of you i bow down too

    i've been reading this thread for the past couple of weeks actually and have been discussing this activity with a co-worker just as long. quite fascinating by the way! and i wish you all the peace and knowledge of this situation to you moose!

    my personal input on this doesn't really go into the theory of shadow people. i dont really see how this character fits into the shadow people bag besides for the fact that "Vincent" is dark. think its others qualities are too much more interesting than just its color and do intrigue other than shadow people. its overly exaggerated movements in its running, its size. i found quite interesting of the location! caves? mines? moose, have the paranormal team done much research with the caves and mines? any talk more of portals? did the research team say anything about that or look into the posibility?

    if all i wrote was just review of oh page 7 or something, basically saying if my memory fell apart and we already went into all of that then i apologize now! moose i and my co-workers here all wish you peace with this subject again, you have this entire art store theorizing about this! good luck! ;D


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on March 30, 2007, 09:37:41 PM
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    Thanks so much Lucid, it helps more than you know! You came to the right board! The people here have been a mindsaver for me throughout this. It's comforting to have a place to bring this and set it up on the table for all to see without anyone questioning my sanity. Haven't seen the elusive creature lately and am still going thru endless tapings. It would be so much easier if he would appear again while the camera is running as I am now able to tape directly to DVD. I wish they could come up with a disc that would record more than 3 hours at a time! :fryingpan:
    Quote from: billyguitar on March 30, 2007, 10:24:03 AM
    The descriptions you posted earlier and then the drawings really describe your runner very well.

    Thanks billy


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on March 30, 2007, 10:55:54 PM
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    i found quite interesting of the location! caves? mines? moose, have the paranormal team done much research with the caves and mines? any talk more of portals? did the research team say anything about that or look into the posibility?

    We spoke about the mines and such but they didn't seem to think it had any connection. The portal/vortex where one of the mediums detected was in the middle of the road where this thing runs. Another intersesting fact was brought up one day when I was outside. Our neighbors down the road seem to think, and I'm still out with the jury on this, that one of the large oak trees on that road, right near our drive is a "haunted oak" I lean towards folklore on this because I haven't had any experiences with the tree but the unusual thing about it is every single limb on this tree swoops downward before it grows upward. Almost looks like the branches were pointing to the ground at one point. We've got plenty of trees up here as you can imagine, but only one like this.. Anyone heard of that before???

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    Post by: Epona on March 31, 2007, 12:40:16 AM
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    Yes... I have an oak in my yard that is like that... The locals call it haunted as well, but it is really just an old oak tree. The lower branches grow down and out, and it invaided my porch in the front a few years back. I had to prune it a bit to ensure no one got their eyes poked out.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: jen02838 on April 01, 2007, 06:07:32 PM
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    I am now also really curious.....keep us updated, please!


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: tkh33 on April 04, 2007, 06:16:11 PM
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    Wow! I would love to see any pictures or video that you capture. Best of luck to you!


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on April 05, 2007, 01:56:37 AM
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    Well, I am not having any luck locating this thing on the films so far, either I am missing it or it's just not there. Which surprises me as the camera's were running. I will keep filming and check each days tapings while going thru the tapes once more for something I missed.
    Note...Pat if your reading this, call me....maybe you can look at some of these for me, it would be a big help!


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Hummingbird on April 05, 2007, 05:35:58 AM
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    Hey Krazymoose, I wish you good luck in catching what ever this thing is on video, it would be incredible. As part of the TAPS forum, I want you to know, that I check your posts daily to see if theres anything new. Sending you cyber support and positive energy.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on April 07, 2007, 07:46:30 AM
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    Quote from: billyguitar on March 27, 2007, 01:52:41 PM
    What you're seeing is more of a classic black shadow. TAPS videoed these in the St. Augustine lighthouse and at the Blue Moon Brewery.


    I saw those episodes during a marathon last year and this isn't at all what we are seeing. Sorry. I wish it were, then we would have an explaination or reference point.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on April 07, 2007, 08:42:08 PM
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    I started a new thread regarding a few questions I have on the topic of mediums and psychics.... here is the link on the same board (in case it wasn't clear the two topics are related)http://www.the-atlantic-paranormal-society.com/forum/index.php?topic=16994.0 (http://www.the-atlantic-paranormal-soci ... ic=16994.0)


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: onlyelise on April 08, 2007, 08:41:23 PM
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    LOL now that I think of it, for a nickname, I can either call you Krazy or Moose... neither seems very flattering, so I think I'll just call you KM ;)

    Wanted to let you know, even the people I've just told about your situation who have never read this thread are fascinated with the story. I'm a video editor and accustomed to looking for quick things that happen on video, so if you ever need a hand going through all the footage, I'd be glad to help.

    BTW, love your new picture, your hair is so cute!

    Brooke


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on April 09, 2007, 12:25:58 AM
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    Quote from: onlyelise on April 08, 2007, 08:41:23 PM
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    Wanted to let you know, even the people I've just told about your situation who have never read this thread are fascinated with the story. I'm a video editor and accustomed to looking for quick things that happen on video, so if you ever need a hand going through all the footage, I'd be glad to help.




    Thanks Brooke! I may need your service to help cut the video down for viewing.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on April 14, 2007, 11:33:17 PM
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    UPDATE

    Well I guess I am back to a confused state again with this. I saw my runner guy this morning, there are two difference things about this sighting than before.
    First is I have never been outdoors when I have seen him, infact I dont beliieve anyone has, and I can tell all of you that I didn't hear any sound when he passed along the road.
    Second is a bit more confusing which kind of had me sitting in thought most of the day when I wasn't once again searching through google for another set of answers.
    Today there appeared to be some sort of atmosphere surrounding him, best I can describe it is a sort of wave effect or heat wave, The area around him looked almost distorted like when you see heat rising from a surface but stronger. It didn't distort his physical self just the 12 or so inches of matter surrounding him, and I am wondering if it was a vision of part of the portal area or some protective coating, or even part of the atmosphere where he is from.

    I think I am at the point where enough is enough and I am growing ever uncomfortable with this thing here. I dont know if the cameras are unable to focus in on him or if they havent yet captured his image and I am so tired of trying to figure this out.

    I apologize about my frame of mind and tone in this post, I am just really getting depressed over this and dont' know where to go with it.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: billyguitar on April 15, 2007, 08:43:39 AM
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    I know you fear your location being disclosed but perhaps it's time to bring in some investigators. I have no ideas about who to suggest though.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Hummingbird on April 15, 2007, 09:02:17 AM
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    Krzymoose, I am so sorry this whole thing is causing you such distress. Living with this being coming and going from your life has to be confusing and stressful. I truly pray that someday you will find out what this thing is doing or where it comes from. Didn't you have a group come with a medium to investigate early on, have they stayed in contact with you?


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: ilook4spooks on April 15, 2007, 04:44:00 PM
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    I agree with the poster above. You really need to get someone else in there that can help you. Heck call T.A.P.S maybe they can lend you a hand in firguring this out. I would share your frame of mind and be exhausted at this point. Just know you have friends here even though you don't know us personally we are still here to lend support.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: billyguitar on April 15, 2007, 06:43:38 PM
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    The scarey part to me is, I feel this may not be a thing of this Earth. Although the fact that it has a human shape would seem to indicate otherwise. No one seems to have ever heard of this kind of thing that makes it more erie. I'd be afraid of it too.
     
  4. krzymoose

    krzymoose Residual

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    Post by: Epona on April 15, 2007, 06:45:56 PM
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    The aura sounds really wierd... It would be exceptional if you could film that...


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: candidenton on April 15, 2007, 07:46:56 PM
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    sounds like you might need some sort of thermal imagineing
    to get him better on camera


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on April 15, 2007, 09:48:14 PM
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    Quote from: Hummingbird on April 15, 2007, 09:02:17 AM
    Krzymoose, I am so sorry this whole thing is causing you such distress. Living with this being coming and going from your life has to be confusing and stressful. I truly pray that someday you will find out what this thing is doing or where it comes from. Didn't you have a group come with a medium to investigate early on, have they stayed in contact with you?


    I did have a group come up, they were here numerous times over a span of about 4 months. While they were wonderful, caring people I felt they didn't focus their investigation on the area which prompted me to call them.. (Vincent).
    We talked about it but I really didn't feel it was the focus of their investigation, so I came away from that with nothing leading to any sort of resolution or even what I could do about it. I dont really blame them tho as it doesn't appear on command. So I am wondering at this point what steps any group would take to investigate this, any help or suggestions would be great.
    Im not even that worried about giving my location at this point, if it would prove to be helpful I would try almost anything.


    I would also like to tell you guys who have followed this subject with me that I find so much comfort in your words and concern for us. I can't imagine going anywhere else with this probably wouldn't trust any other group of people. You all have no idea how hard this has been for me, but having somewhere to turn is more help than some realize so again, from my heart, THANKS!!!




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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on April 15, 2007, 09:51:30 PM
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    I Forgot to add, that the paranormal group does still stay in touch with me. Also if anyone out there is in the northern California area and would be interested in trying to help figure this out, I am open to it just contact me and we will go from there.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Vacant Planets on April 16, 2007, 12:36:49 AM
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    sorry to hear it's causing you all this distress =(
    I think we are all curious to find out what this being is and why it's there. don't forget that there are numerous people out there who are more then ready to help you or share experiences. like here! :)


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: CREWZIN on April 16, 2007, 09:50:52 AM
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    Along with trying to film the Running Man maybe you can try some other things. I was thinking maybe try logging down the date and time, weather conditions, atmosphere conditions, your mood or feelings before and after the sightings. Most importantly would be checking that date and time against a lunar phase and calendar. This way you may be able to establish a base for the times or reasons for when it shows up. It may be possible to figure this part out, but what it is will be harder to figure out. I would like to help you try to figure out some of the mystery. Sometimes with patience and lots of soul searching and research you can figure some parts of the mystery out. But documentation is the most important part, for your own info and for future reference for investigators. Private message me if you like and we can chat.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: XfileSVUgal on April 17, 2007, 09:24:27 PM
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    Wow I've been reading this post from beginning to end. Very interesting, I hope you are able to get some answers for yourself. That's good the group is staying in contact with you. Maybe you should call other groups and see if they have any suggestions on what you can do... Maybe a more scientific approach would help you with Vincent. You may want to see what groups that are connected to TAPS that are in the california area... heck hold on let me see if I can find some for you. Here are some in California. This is another page on this site.


    http://www.the-atlantic-paranormal-soci ... ators.html

    CALIFORNIA
    American Paranormal Investigations - Northern
    Contact: API@the-atlantic-paranormal-society.com

    Pacific Paranormal Investigations
    Contact: PPI@the-atlantic-paranormal-society.com

    San Gabriel Valley Paranormal Researchers
    Contact: SGVPR@the-atlantic-paranormal-society.com


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    This could be a silly question Moose ??? But have you thought about inviting a medium or similar to your place,without letting on why?


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Quote from: casper on April 19, 2007, 06:43:51 PM
    This could be a silly question Moose ??? But have you thought about inviting a medium or similar to your place,without letting on why?


    Bay Area Paranormal Investigations, the group who investigated our property, brought in a psychic from Texas, Dee Disparti. I spoke with her on the phone prior to her visit and I left that conversation in a state of awe. There is only one word I have for her that that is "amazing". While she did have prior knowledge of what was happening she spent the entire day wandering around our property and inside our house. Not much was really said about Vincent, but she seems quite intriged with my 7 year old who seems uncomfortable in his bedroom, I'm not sure what to think about all that so I just deal with it day to day.
    In addition and priory to Ms. Disparti's visit, BAPI also brought in a 'sensitive" who had no prior knowledge of the happenings at our place. He is the one who felt there was some sort of portal or opening along the road where vincent runs. I told him what was happening at the end of the day and he felt this opening was one of the places where the being would either enter or leave our area or dimensiion. He returned once more during the visit with Ms. Disparti and he was drawn to my son as well, spending a good portion of the late afternoon in his room trying to open a conversation with him (my son) His name is Jason Lindo and is based out of the Sacramento. Ca area.

    This story just keeps getting more confusing , and I don't think this is related (although I could be wrong) Last weekend my daughter saw something outside her bedroom window, it was late at nite, around midnight. The space between our property and the neighbors, she witnessed an "all over' dim blue light and saw something moving between the trees.. She was prompted to look out her window by a flute-like sound followed by sounds of someone moving about. She came to get me and by the time I got up to her window whatever she saw wasn't there. I decided to turn on the surveillance system, which we don't run at nite because the night vision is poor. The sound on this unit is excellent though. Hearing some strange noises I hadn't heard before, prompted me to flip on the DVR recorder. What I ended up with is 2.5 hours of very strange audio coming from the location where Jason detected the opening or portal. The sound is strong at points and sounds like someone is walking heavily on branches and then scuffing their feet along a flat surface. We know it wasnt any wildlife because we looked everywhere and there wasn't anything about and there wasn't a track to be found on the ground anywhere in the morning. My neighbor set up the same systems in hopes of catching Vincent running as well but stated she was receiving nothing over her speakers. I've been working with Michael Cline who heads up BAPI trying to convert the audio files on the DVR into a format which I can narrow down to a workable file so I can upload it here to get everyones opinion. i'm hoping the have that by this weekend.

    Im beginning to come to the conclusion that this area is just plain strange. Nothing along these lines has ever happened to me before, which leads me to believe it's not me which brings it on but simply the area itself.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: mosaint on April 20, 2007, 09:50:53 AM
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    Wow this is so interesting. Do you think you could upload the audio for us to hear?


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Yes this is getting stranger and stranger. You must be going crazy! I am hoping for you, that you get some hard evidence, like video or audio, although you never mentioned that he has made any sounds.
    Maybe someone reading this thread can hook you up with something more sophisticated. Good luck, again!


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: casper on April 20, 2007, 04:36:54 PM
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    Sorry if im making you repeat yourself Moose,but im wondering how long you have lived there and how long you have been noticing things? I dont know what to say ,im intrigued.Apart from feeling "uneasy" in his room is there anything else your son can tell you? On a more extreme note,if you feel this is taking over your life,have you considered moving?


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on April 20, 2007, 10:50:14 PM
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    Quote from: casper on April 20, 2007, 04:36:54 PM
    Sorry if im making you repeat yourself Moose,but im wondering how long you have lived there and how long you have been noticing things? I dont know what to say ,im intrigued.Apart from feeling "uneasy" in his room is there anything else your son can tell you? On a more extreme note,if you feel this is taking over your life,have you considered moving?


    No problem Casper, I know this is a very long thread! This month marks the 3rd year since we moved in. This was a custom built house on several acres with nothing built her before. I first saw this thing the last week in Sept of last year. My daughters been seeing him for almost a year now off and on. I have toyed with the idea of moving, but it's not inside our house and I am not ready to give in to this yet. :)


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on April 20, 2007, 11:36:20 PM
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    Now, how do I upload this audio file????? ;D


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: rotten on April 21, 2007, 05:31:35 AM
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    ok...after reading all 15 pages of this thread...the first thing i want to say is keep at it. any decent paranormal investigator will tell you that trying to catch evidence of these kinds of things is a waitng game. with that being said i would also like to say that im sorry this is causing you so much stress. have you tried asking your son if he has actually seen or experienced anything to cause his uneasyness? children are usually much more perceptive to these types of things as well as animals..so keep a close eye on that kitty and be sure to note any oddities in her behavior. i also noticed that you said that "Vincent" tends to appear more after its been raining..this leads me to believe that the electrically charged atmosphere that rainstorms create is helpiing him to manifest himself. and the problems with your survelliance system could also be caused by "Vincent" gathering energy to manifest. i have no theories on what exactly it might be but from what ive read it certainly doesnt seem to be some sort of alien definitely seems more ghost like in nature. unfortunately i didnt get to see your "artists conception" of "Vincent" but his description doesnt match up to shadow people either. ive lived with shadow people for as long as i can remember and they have never been just an outline like you describe. i have however seen a picture of a ghost like figure that was just a dark outline. a friend of mine happened to catch it in a picture but he didnt actually see it there when he took the picture. unfortunately ive lost contact with this person and dont have access to the picture or i would surely scan it and let you see it so you could compare that to what you are seeing. from what ive read though there seems to be nothing threatening about it..but i would maybe setup a camrea in your sons room..and keep in mind..you could always get in touch with the guys from TAPS i believe they have email addresses posted on their site and they are always willing to help people that are seriously distressed by what is happening to them..especially if there are children involved that are also feeling uneasy. best of luck in actually catching this thing on tape and for all its worth im sure this thing means no one any harm.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on April 21, 2007, 11:13:35 AM
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    Quote from: rotten on April 21, 2007, 05:31:35 AM
    [unfortunately i didnt get to see your "artists conception" of "Vincent"
    I didnt realize it wasn't showing up, will post again
    (http://www.ssb4.net/users/12093/runner.jpg)

    As far as my little boy goes, I haven't actually sat down and asked him directly. I don't want to alarm him or make him think something is not right. I spend alot of time just encouraging talk between us so maybe he will open up, he seems to have bad dreams quite often and I really don't want to escalate that. The only things he has specifically stated was there were people who wanted him to come outside and play, he hears them asking from his room. There are no other children his age within 2 miles of us. He does talk about an imaginary playmate, even said his stuffed animals have friends too, but that may just be a passing phase. I am hoping anyway. I appreciate your response rotten! Thanks


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: dcduranie5 on April 21, 2007, 04:41:49 PM
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    Wow Krazy...I finally finished reading your 15 (so far) pages! This is so odd....I have heard of shadow people, I have heard of ghosts, aliens, etc....I just don't know what to think. Andy by the way everyone, Krazy sent me the audio file....it is just eerie!! I heard rustling, walking, possibly rain, but then there is a weird sudden noise....but I can't explain it...possibly a bird sound but only once and very short and sharp. Wow...we need to get some answers, but I don't know that we will....
    BTW Krazy....we gotta go to Waverly lol! See ya soon!


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: ilook4spooks on April 21, 2007, 10:05:29 PM
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    Quote from: krzymoose on April 20, 2007, 11:36:20 PM
    Now, how do I upload this audio file????? ;D

    You need to upload the file to putfile or a simliar hosting place and then link it here. Also if you can't do that if you can email the file I can create you a free hosting account on my server ( I am a hosting provider) and then link it here. If you are interested email me at info@hillbillyghosthunters.com...I would be happy to help.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on April 22, 2007, 01:07:20 AM
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    I came across a photo on the internet which resembles this guy we see, the differences are he isnt solid as shown but the form is very close http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Shadow_Person.html (http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Shadow_Person.html)


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Epona on April 22, 2007, 06:52:27 AM
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    wow, That is interesting...

    I would like to hear that audio file as well...


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: onlyelise on April 22, 2007, 01:09:12 PM
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    OK, I've been following this since the beginning, and I always just thought it was really interesting. I'm sorry it's causing you so much stress, though!!! Hang in there, and remember, no one's seen it in the house yet, so chances are there's nothing to fear and your family is perfectly safe! Even if it does appear in the house, it doesn't seem to realize that anything or anyone is around it, so chances are you would still be totally safe. I'll tell you, though.... I clicked on that link you provided above and it actually freaked me out.... and I don't get freaked out by much on this site!!

    Brooke


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on April 23, 2007, 02:20:12 AM
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    Quote from: dcduranie5 on April 21, 2007, 04:41:49 PM
    by the way everyone, Krazy sent me the audio file....it is just eerie!! I heard rustling, walking, possibly rain, but then there is a weird sudden noise....but I can't explain it...possibly a bird sound but only once and very short and sharp. Wow...we need to get some answers, but I don't know that we will....


    It does have a sound that is similar to rain, but there wasn't any rain at all during time of the recording. I am getting the file up in just a bit....Hopefully


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: celticwitch on April 23, 2007, 02:45:27 AM
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    Wow Krzy, I've been folllowing this from the beginning as well.I can't shed any light on what you are seeing but I am waiting to see what you come up with. Keep going with your investigations and know that we are all here supporting you. If you are concerned about your son do you do any sort of protection around him and the rest of your family for that matter. You can always PM me if you need to know about that side of things.
    Goodluck uploading that audio file, can't wait to hear it.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on April 23, 2007, 04:02:20 AM
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    OK, Got it figured out, thanks to those that helped!
    YOU CAN HEAR MORE DETAIL ON BOTH OF THESE IF YOU LISTEN WITH A HEADSET.
    This first one is Titled Chapter 16, Listen at 2:15 for a strange sound. Also I need to add, there was no rain, very little wind, and no visible animals around. This was recorded at around 2am right outside our front porch.
    http://media.putfile.com/Chapter16-April07 (http://media.putfile.com/Chapter16-April07)

    This second one is Titled Chapter7, I can hear something at around 2:51 if you listen closely. Same applies as above. Although you might hear sounds of a car, which is either on the main highway below our property and possilby a car which drove down our dirt road (can't remember if its on this chapter or not, sorry)
    http://media.putfile.com/Chapter7-251 (http://media.putfile.com/Chapter7-251)


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: shinglo13806 on April 23, 2007, 05:08:58 AM
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    The first recording, the strange sound you are talking about. I heard it before.

    I don't know how to explain it. If anyone here have seen the japanese version of 'The Ring", you ppl might remember the sound.

    I remember it not because I heard it in the movie but I have heard it so many times before my encounters. It's like a warning sound or something. Most of the times, I always get attacked suddenly. My team call it the 'Devil's Warning".....

    Not to scare anyone but I not like the sound of it.

    The watery sounds feels to me like a something burning or frying, almost like you are inside a burning room, full of creek wood. Wet and the way it cracks.

    I thought some groans or voices in the second one. Not sure, my equipment is too old for all these.




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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Epona on April 23, 2007, 07:02:02 AM
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    KM, I am just going to tell you what I heard...

    In the first one the first sound I hear is the wind, then it sounds like a small fire craclking. The fire crackling gets louder, like someone put some more fuel on the fire, then some one says "Shuuush", then the rest sounds like a passing car, but it is the wind.

    I don't hear anything in the second file


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: shinglo13806 on April 23, 2007, 07:11:48 AM
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    Hmmm..... Well, looks like it's time to spend a fortune for new devices and a good computer to process sound..... But I'm broke!!

    Keep trying KM, you might catch something even more interesting....

    Good job.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: billyguitar on April 23, 2007, 08:50:58 AM
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    I agree! Good work! Too bad about all that electrical buzz. The high noise to me sounded like a bird or animal.

    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on April 23, 2007, 09:03:47 AM
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    Quote from: Epona on April 23, 2007, 07:02:02 AM
    KM, I am just going to tell you what I heard...

    In the first one the first sound I hear is the wind, then it sounds like a small fire craclking. The fire crackling gets louder, like someone put some more fuel on the fire, then some one says "Shuuush", then the rest sounds like a passing car, but it is the wind.

    I don't hear anything in the second file


    Interesting, I think the wind possibly since there was a slight breeze, very slight tho, There was no fire going anywhere as I said this was at around 2am in the morning, the car sound is indeed a big rig passing along the main highway below our property line, they are coming around a steep curve so generally either down shifting or braking which tends to reflect a more signifcant sound. To me is sounds like someone shuffling their feet and either stepping on or breaking large twigs while moving around. I can't explain the Shuuusshh sould, but thats exactly what it sounds like to me as well.. Thanks for taking the time, I will be linking a few of other chapters as soon as I get thru them. I do have some voices on one which sounds like children to me, I'll get that on up next as soon as I capture it. Thanks again, I value your opinon very much!


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: onlyelise on April 23, 2007, 10:37:49 AM
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    I have some pro audio software I'm going to run this through. If I can clear anything up, I'll send you a PM with the files and you can post them if you want. :)

    Brooke


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    Post by: onlyelise on April 23, 2007, 10:39:58 AM
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    OK, I take that back... I can't download it from this site. Could you possibly PM me the files, and I'll see what I can do with them? I'm so excited to be able to help with this one...

    Brooke

    :)


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on April 24, 2007, 02:16:37 AM
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    Quote from: pacoavenge on April 23, 2007, 10:34:15 PM
    It sounds like he is stable in his running, only in certain areas. He does not appear to be harmful. I am wondering if he has something to do with either the burial grounds or mines. Can you tell what time period he is from? Do his clothes show any distinction?

    pacoavenge

    We can't tell at all what type of clothing its wearing if any...and I don't mean he's a streaker lol. It just isn't part of the detail.
    Although I do get the impression that his has a 50's sort of hairstyle with a pompadore at top front, but thats just my impression.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: dcduranie5 on April 24, 2007, 02:44:13 PM
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    Wow krazy first off the picture link you put on freaked me out too!! That is almost exactly what you are saying it looks like! Bizzare!! The audio file, I can not play from that link...must be a mac thing you know lol..... Can you email it to me? I know it takes time, but if you can I am dying to hear it also....keep me posted!! See ya around my friend! O0


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: mbenton on April 25, 2007, 12:10:02 PM
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    Wow, I have been following this since I first saw it posted on another forum and I just listened to the second audio and have chills. I hear voices and what sounds like people in the woods doing something. I also heard what souned like a note played on a flute or recorder. Was anyone outside when this was recorded ?


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: robin on April 25, 2007, 01:00:23 PM
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    I find the audio very interesting. And kind of scary. Something tells me that this is not a spirit being. It feels like more of a living in an other dimension type thing. Hope we here from you soon kzymoose.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on April 25, 2007, 06:44:54 PM
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    Quote from: mbenton on April 25, 2007, 12:10:02 PM
    Wow, I have been following this since I first saw it posted on another forum and I just listened to the second audio and have chills. I hear voices and what sounds like people in the woods doing something. I also heard what souned like a note played on a flute or recorder. Was anyone outside when this was recorded ?


    There was not a soul outside we checked over and over. Ther flute/recorder you hear, we heard as well and no one can explain where that came from. I thought it was my daughter and she heard it outside which started all this and my recording the sounds.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: ilook4spooks on April 25, 2007, 09:22:17 PM
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    To me the recordings sounds like something burning, crackling.I also hear what sounds like voices that are very muffled and hard to make out. Very interesting that is for sure. Do you have camera's installed where you got the recordings? I know you was having issues with the camera before.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on April 26, 2007, 01:45:25 AM
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    Quote from: ilook4spooks on April 25, 2007, 09:22:17 PM
    To me the recordings sounds like something burning, crackling.I also hear what sounds like voices that are very muffled and hard to make out. Very interesting that is for sure. Do you have camera's installed where you got the recordings? I know you was having issues with the camera before.

    Actually the recording is from the camera's. There isn't any visual because there isn't any night vision.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: mbenton on April 26, 2007, 10:50:51 AM
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    Very creepy. Please keep posting.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: ilook4spooks on April 27, 2007, 09:53:26 PM
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    Quote from: krzymoose on April 26, 2007, 01:45:25 AM
    Actually the recording is from the camera's. There isn't any visual because there isn't any night vision.

    Oh I see...shoot. Does the camera's have night vision and they are just messed up? It seems like I remeber you stateing something about the cameras not working correctly. I sure wish I was close by so I could try to help you firgure this out. I am on the other coast though. I know you must be feeling like you are out of options. Just hang in there something will come of this to where you will get some answers I am sure.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on April 28, 2007, 02:58:24 AM
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    The systems I had previously had night vision which I was experiencing numerous technical issues with, so basically I decided to simplify and go with the system I have now which we used during the day. I can run the camera and sound 24 hours but generally only tape during the daylight hours. As I stated before, the strange light and motion my daughter saw between the trees prompted me to turn on the audio and it was then we discovered the eerie sounds. The tape ran out after 2.5 hours so we haven't a clue how long the sounds lasted for, and havent been able to capture them since.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: poohbare510 on April 29, 2007, 02:23:35 PM
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    Hi, I've read this from beginning to end....Did you try to contact TAPS?? And have you tried recording in your son's room?? Since he is hearing someone/things asking him to play. I would definitely record there! Good luck with the cameras! And have you researched this area? Maybe back 200 years? I'd be interested to know if there were any..... massacres of Indians there. Since it's not a good thing to disrupt an Indian Burial Ground. Good luck to you!

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    Quote from: poohbare510 on April 29, 2007, 02:23:35 PM
    Hi, I've read this from beginning to end....Did you try to contact TAPS?? And have you tried recording in your son's room?? Since he is hearing someone/things asking him to play. I would definitely record there! Good luck with the cameras! And have you researched this area? Maybe back 200 years? I'd be interested to know if there were any..... massacres of Indians there. Since it's not a good thing to disrupt an Indian Burial Ground. Good luck to you!


    I'm not sure what TAPs could do for us other than prove it's existance, and I already have that within myself. I'm not sure there is anyone who can help us define this thing.
    About my son's room, to be completely honest, I am a little frightened to put a recorder in his room. This is really making me nervous and the stress levels are elevating. I'm even considering selling my house and moving. Please remember that my interests do not lie in the exploration of the paranormal. I'm not a ghost hunter but one who is having something going on around here and sought help or advise. I so appreciate all your responses.
    The Paranormal group researched the area and could only go back so far as the name of the town changed without explaination, and info kind of halted at that point.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: celticwitch on May 01, 2007, 01:31:07 AM
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    Quote from: krzymoose on April 30, 2007, 10:32:28 PM
    The Paranormal group researched the area and could only go back so far as the name of the town changed without explaination, and info kind of halted at that point.


    That sounds very odd! Surely someone must know something! Really not sure what to think. Goodluck with your investigations.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: casper on May 01, 2007, 07:45:32 PM
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    Ok ive listened to these 4 times and im all "Vincent ed" out,lol
    The first one i did hear the "shoo" shsh?
    And the second one a breath at 2:51,a voice at 2:55 which goes for a few secs and a voice at 3:51
    The first time listening to the second one i heard what sounded like chimes,but the next 3 times i couldnt hear it :eek: very frustrating!
    Did you leave this running or stay up and sit inside? If you hadnt already said there was no rain i would say i heard water of some sort,if you were sitting inside are you sure no animals were around?Did you have a camera set up at the same time?
    ah so many questions ??? you have us hooked moose my friend :D


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: onlyelise on May 02, 2007, 12:47:38 PM
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    Quote from: casper on May 01, 2007, 07:45:32 PM
    Ok ive listened to these 4 times and im all "Vincent ed" out,lol
    The first one i did hear the "shoo" shsh?
    And the second one a breath at 2:51,a voice at 2:55 which goes for a few secs and a voice at 3:51
    The first time listening to the second one i heard what sounded like chimes,but the next 3 times i couldnt hear it :eek: very frustrating!
    Did you leave this running or stay up and sit inside? If you hadnt already said there was no rain i would say i heard water of some sort,if you were sitting inside are you sure no animals were around?Did you have a camera set up at the same time?
    ah so many questions ??? you have us hooked moose my friend :D


    It's odd you should mention that, Casper, because I heard that gong sound too the first time I listened to that portion, and I could never find it again!! Krzy sent me the audio clips, and I put them into Adobe Audition to take some of the electrical noise out, and it turns out the shushing noise was an owl or something shrieking in the background.

    Brooke

    Brooke


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on May 02, 2007, 04:55:30 PM
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    Quote from: casper on May 01, 2007, 07:45:32 PM
    Ok ive listened to these 4 times and im all "Vincent ed" out,lol
    The first one i did hear the "shoo" shsh?
    And the second one a breath at 2:51,a voice at 2:55 which goes for a few secs and a voice at 3:51
    The first time listening to the second one i heard what sounded like chimes,but the next 3 times i couldnt hear it :eek: very frustrating!
    Did you leave this running or stay up and sit inside? If you hadnt already said there was no rain i would say i heard water of some sort,if you were sitting inside are you sure no animals were around?Did you have a camera set up at the same time?
    ah so many questions ??? you have us hooked moose my friend :D


    Thanks for listening Casper and responding, I turned this on at about 1am when prompted by the events listed above.. This is a recording from the camera's i have set up and have no visual because the camera doesn't have any night vision. I have military issue night vision binaculars and scopes and went around the entire house and found no presense of anything animal or human. I turned on the front porch light which is a stronger light than most, the sound didn't stop. I have motion activated spot lights on both side of my house, which did not activate to my knowledge or my neighbors knowledge who was up watching with me from her property. After I turned on the camera and inserted the disc to tape, I stayed up most of the night to listen and watch. It was not raining at all, it had rained earlier that morning but nothing for about 8 hours. The ground was wet, not soaked, and any tracks of animals or human are always visible the next day without exception due to the clay and sand in our soil which holds the print real well. I walked the perimeter of my property 3 times and didn't even find a racoon print so I am fairly certain nothing was out there or I would have seen evidence as usual. My neighbor had no prints either around her property but then again, her camera system (same as mine) captured not a sound what-so-ever. What I find interesting is there is no crickets....we always, I mean always have crickets or frog sounds at nite. I didn't pick one up at all. Also when this was recording I didn't hear the specific sounds like the swoosh sound until I heard on playback. I am not ruling out an owl or something, but I just have never seen one here...although in all fairness they must be around somewhere. Also another thing which is absent is the dogs on the property to the right of us. Periodically thru the nite they will bark if there is a cat or anything flying or roaming, I did verify the dogs were out that nite but not a peep from them. (2 pit bulls and a lab)
    I welcome any other questions or theories.


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    that's really creepy that there were no "normal" nightsounds, like the crickets and dogs. this is going to sound completely insane, but what if this is all happening not because a being is bursting forth in to our dimension, but you or your house/the area around your house is pushing in to his dimension? (or plane, however it should be termed in this case. ???) I wonder if someone is trying to get evidence of you. :eek:




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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Quote from: questionmark on May 03, 2007, 09:47:27 AM
    that's really creepy that there were no "normal" nightsounds, like the crickets and dogs. this is going to sound completely insane, but what if this is all happening not because a being is bursting forth in to our dimension, but you or your house/the area around your house is pushing in to his dimension? (or plane, however it should be termed in this case. ???) I wonder if someone is trying to get evidence of you. :eek:




    OMG, if that doesn't give me the creeps! What a thought! Never crossed my mind, I hope if thats the case, they find me completely un-interesting! :eek:


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Quote from: krzymoose on May 03, 2007, 01:38:46 PM
    OMG, if that doesn't give me the creeps! What a thought! Never crossed my mind, I hope if thats the case, they find me completely un-interesting! :eek:


    try really, really hard to be as boring as you can possibly be. :D

    I hope that when this mystery is solved, you'll be able to write a book about it...it's just so fascinating!


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Hello. I’ve been keeping up with this topic for a long time now.
    I’ve listened to the recording and think it’s mostly explainable. I’m not an expert or anything it’s just my opinion. The fire/water noises sound like water falling to me or is it possible be some kind of interference in the recording? Moose you said their was some rain earlier that morning. Is it possible the time of the recording could be mixed up and your playing the recording from during the time of the rain?

    For the other sounds, I think most of them could be from birds. I know you checked the area and looked for tracks but birds would stay in the trees and not leave tracks. When you walked around with the night vision binoculars the birds could have flown away from you or you just did not spot them.

    I am a skeptic at heart in the paranormal but I do believe in it . I do however believe you see Vincent and I have no explanation for him. Hang in there. Keep watching and taking notes.



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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Quote from: Snoop27312 on May 03, 2007, 07:01:30 PM
    Hello. I’ve been keeping up with this topic for a long time now.
    I’ve listened to the recording and think it’s mostly explainable. I’m not an expert or anything it’s just my opinion. The fire/water noises sound like water falling to me or is it possible be some kind of interference in the recording? Moose you said their was some rain earlier that morning. Is it possible the time of the recording could be mixed up and your playing the recording from during the time of the rain?

    For the other sounds, I think most of them could be from birds. I know you checked the area and looked for tracks but birds would stay in the trees and not leave tracks. When you walked around with the night vision binoculars the birds could have flown away from you or you just did not spot them.

    I am a skeptic at heart in the paranormal but I do believe in it . I do however believe you see Vincent and I have no explanation for him. Hang in there. Keep watching and taking notes.


    Thanks for your post Snoop, and I certainly understand your perception of this audio. Had I not been up listening with intent to this sound I, myself would have thought it were rain, but knowing that the rain had stopped around 2pm that afternoon and this recording was done in the early hours of the next day, I am 100% certain there was no rain, we even toyed with the idea that maybe water dripping in the eves and such but there simply isn't any trees surrounding the close perimeter of our house as they were cleared for building. I sat up with the recording so I know when it was and I didn't have the recorder going that day due to the rain since we only see Vincent after the rains. Im not quite sure what kind of bird it would have to be to make this continuous sound, but would imagine it would have to be a fairly large one or maybe I am misunderstanding your feelings on what sound is maybe caused by the birds. I more than anyone would love for this all the be explained away so keep the ideas coming maybe one will fit in place. Thanks again and I will continue to watch and keep my journal as far as vincent goes in hopes of one day presenting him in all his glory for ya'll to see.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Quote from: LadyBug on May 03, 2007, 01:50:50 PM
    I have a few more ideas. I first read this many weeks/now months ago... and am STILL struck by how creepy this is!

    I don't know - I could barely read this thread fast enough to contribute again.


    Ladybug, I have been where you are right now and completely understand your lack of skeptisim at this point. I used to listen intently at stories all while in the back of my mind thought, "sure, uh huh, right" and wouldn't think much more about it. Now after seeing this in broad daylight and having full knowledge of its actual existance I can't find myself being able to dismiss much these day. If givin the choice, I would still opt to return to myself at the time when I simply wondered if such things did exist. I know some of you, with a good intentions, suggest I should be thankful for the oportunity to be chosen for this view and I understand your passion about it, it's just I, am not one who seeks the unknown, I like calm cool and ordinary as boring as that sounds. haha
    Quote from: questionmark on May 03, 2007, 04:55:49 PM
    try really, really hard to be as boring as you can possibly be. :D

    I hope that when this mystery is solved, you'll be able to write a book about it...it's just so fascinating!

    questionmark.....Thanks for making me chuckle, and I will do my best! I might consider writing about this one day, it sure would make an intersting read, but I think it would be more believable to those who havent experienced it, if I had some visual proof to show, I still have high hopes for that to come! Thanks so much for writing again, everyone!
     
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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    I am a skeptic at heart in the paranormal but I do believe in it . I do however believe you see Vincent and I have no explanation for him. Hang in there. Keep watching and taking notes.

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    A believing skeptic? ??? I just dont get that,you either believe or you dont,at what point does a skeptic believe,i mean what do they have to see/hear to stop being a skeptic?Im confused ???

    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: XfileSVUgal on May 18, 2007, 09:33:42 PM
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    Nevermind. I thought I found something that could help. but no it's a logo nothing more.




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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on May 20, 2007, 06:24:31 AM
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    Quote from: MelodyHope on May 17, 2007, 09:22:03 AM
    Thanks krzymoose,
    Has your neighbor seen any other man or thing running on her place? Or just the shadow of this figure?

    My neighbor that has seen Vincent has only seen him running towards her property. On the other hand, the paranormal group that came up to help me also spent some time on her land as well. She has lived here about 25 years, with her husband and 2 sons..she has experienced several different things on her property over the years and the medium who came up was facinated by certain areas around her home. She also has horses on her property which she thinks are sensitive to paranormal activity and even has one horse which something happened too and its just plain crazy now, can't even get near him. While I don't consider myself sensitive or psychic to paranormal things, I have always felt very uncomfortable at her place and only go there when it's absolutely necessary. I can't explain why, its just an overwhelmiing feeling I get when I pass thru her front gate..


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on May 20, 2007, 06:41:39 AM
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    There is so much more to this story than I have written and the reason for not including the following information is because 1. I personally haven't experiened it, 2. My daughter is the only one who has seen it, 3. I wanted to focus on what "Vincent" was. I am adding this information to get opinons as to what it may be and if anyone thinks there is a connection.
    Keep in mind that I haven't seen this particular thing so I will describe exactly what my 16 year old daughter told me.
    It was around last November, she gets off the high school bus at 4pm at the base of our property then walks up thru a wooded pathway to the clearing directly behind our house. As she approached the end of the path, and came upon the clearing she saw an object which was approx 4ft high, a solid grayish white mass which was surrounded by a bright yellow/orange color. It startled her as it was somewhat inbetween where she was standing and our house. She started to move really quick to get past it and as she did it moved towards the trees near the pathway where she had come from. When she got past it she turned around to see where it was going and saw this thing go through the trees, not around them, but directly thru them and disappeared into the wooded area. She got a pretty good look at it and said the outline of it being like a bright light but without the glow. By the time she got into the house she was nearly drained of color from being frightened (although it didn't seem to threaten her) I wonder if this is something that is happening just to her because of her age and energy. I've heard that teenagers and small children are more likely to have certain experiences but am somewhat confused as to why my 8 yr old doesn't seem to have them. Or...maybe he does but doesn't view them as abnormal, She has only seen this the one time, thankfully...
    I apologize for leaving this information out, everything happened so fast for me and I was reeling on the Vincent sighting and guess I didn't want to deal with something I hadn't experienced. i dont' know if there is any connection between the two, my instinct tells me no.....but then again I'm not certain I can trust my instinct in this area we live in as it just seems to be an atmosphere unlike anywhere I have been before..

    BTW, I am talking with a real estate agent this coming week about putting my house on the market. I wonder if I have to disclose any of this information....anyone know?


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Hey Moose, are you moving because of this activity only? You can probably research the disclosure laws for your state as to whether you have to tell anyone about it.

    I'd say it's possible that everything paranormal in the area could be related simply by the energy alone. Kind of like termites - where there's one, there's probably more. It seems logical to me that this stuff could be attracted to the area because of the energy, or the area could have a vibe that makes it easy to be there or be strong there, or maybe things like this happen everywhere and the vibe on your property makes is easier for humans to tune in and see it.

    What I've heard is that it's the teenagers who witness, attract or cause poltergeist activity (whatever the case may be - nobody is sure - but I've heard speculation that it's due to changing hormones). So, your 8 year old may be too young for that. Much younger children seem to be able to see spirits quite often, but I've heard that ability usually disappears between 4 and 6.

    Also worth noting is that people in general seem to be experiencing more and more paranormal occurrences over the years. Supposedly the "veal is thinning" between worlds. I don't know if this is true. Maybe the acceptance of ghosts, etc is spreading.

    I wish I could really do something to help you in your situation - especially if this stuff is causing you to move from your home. Did any of the paranormal groups try to cleanse the area or house?


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Hummingbird on May 21, 2007, 06:36:04 AM
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    Wow, that must have been quite frightful for your daughter. You and you kids have had to deal with some extremely strange phenomenon over this past year. I'm sure the decision to move hasn't been an easy one, but living with peace of mind and feeling safe and secure are the most important thing. I'm just sorry that you couldn't find out who Vincent is or where he running to, reading your post have been so intriguing to many of us on this forum. Do let us know how things go. Peace to you.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Marwyn on May 21, 2007, 06:43:50 AM
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    My experiance with something of this sort was very violent a friend of mine was possessed and it was pretty bad. However you have not stated anything that makes me think of it as violent so my opninion is that it may very well be a imprint left behind. It doesnt seem like an intelligent haunting however I may very well be wrong as my expierence is mostly with nature spirits and elementals.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    No they didn't as i really havent' had much goin on inside and she didn't feel anything bad was around the house, she did use some sort of tobacco and sage, (i think it was sage) in the corners though.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Hummingbird on May 28, 2007, 12:22:57 PM
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    Hey Krazymoose, just was wondering how things are going for you and your family, any more paranormal activity? Have you put your house on the market?


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: casper on May 28, 2007, 10:27:59 PM
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    Moose,im thinking this must really be bothering you now as im sure you said in an earlier post you werent interested in moving.I wouldnt say anything to the agent,you are not obliged to_Other than a murder in the house i dont think you have to declare anything.Good luck!keep us posted :D


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on May 29, 2007, 02:16:29 AM
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    it's been really quiet and uneventful around her for the past couple of weeks and I welcome the peacefulness. I have appointments with real estate agents thiis week and my plan is to sell. While I don't really think there is any real threat, I don't want any of this to upset my little boy so I really feel I am doing the right thing by moving on. I will continue to post any events up until the move and plan to stay in the general area for at least a year. I still hope for some sort of conclusion or answer to this and I really thank all of you for your care and for posting the ideas and thought you had regarding this situation. I feel so blessed to have found this board and will remain a faithful follower of all the experiences being told here. You all are great! Blessings....Diana


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: onlyelise on May 29, 2007, 08:27:13 PM
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    Diana,
    I really appreciate you letting me try to help with the audio files, and I'm just sorry we can't seem to pull out anything substantiative. If you feel you need to move, then all my blessings go with you. And if you decide to stay, well, all my blessings will stay with you! :)

    Brooke


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Coyote_Blond on May 30, 2007, 06:55:44 AM
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    I noticed earlier you had mentioned never having been outside when you've witnessed the apparition. Were you not outside in your car when it first crossed your path?

    I tend to stick to the belief that trapped energy repeats itself. Rather like a video playing over & over again. Or the possibility of time being dementional & ocassionally colliding or overlapping. Could explain their seeming to be aware of us at times & other times not. Time and space is an amazing thing.

    Good Luck!

    Oh and I took the Waverly Tour. We were in the hallway an apparation was video taped in by GH. We didn't know this at first. Once it was devulged that we were not only in the hallway but then the exact room it ran into... people had a collective 'creepy awe' response. You could see their perception & awareness change just by being told something about their situation. I found myself watching each person afterwards. It was interesting. Some seemed to want to Tune In while others Tuned Out so to speak. Maybe you're Tuned In and just were never aware of how much until it occured.

    TC!


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Epona on May 04, 2007, 12:41:14 AM
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    Casper, There are a lot of skeptics out there who believe, somewhat, in the paranormal. Most would tell you that they believe that there is something going on, but that it has a reasonable, rational explanation, and if that explanation is the paranormal iconic ghost then so be it. As long as there is verifiable proof.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: billyguitar on May 04, 2007, 11:42:01 AM
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    I'm not buying the one with the red eyes!


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: robin on May 04, 2007, 11:46:44 AM
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    The first pic on the left looks like krzymooses Vincent, but I don't understand why it looks to be standing on a table in front of a mirror. That's my impression of it anyway.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Pumpkin on May 04, 2007, 01:05:05 PM
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    Krzymoose,
    I have been following this post for awhile...now I do believe there are just things that can't be explained. I have never experience anything except, back in 2000 I was doing laundry late at night in the well house ( I did my 2 grown girls and 3 grandsons laundry for extra money) when I heard a big bang ( it was real loud ) on the side of the well house, I thought a big tree had fallen onto the well house. I went outside the well house with a flashlite to check it out, but saw nothing, the walls on the outside of the well house look ok and the limbs on the tree was to high to touch even the roof on the well house, this went on a few times when I did laundry late at night, not that it scared me, just confuse me but needless to say I quit doing laundry late at night...because it was just to confusing. But my grandsons ( youngest daugther sons) have experience things that I can't explained, It started with my oldest grandson Malik (when I used to babysit him and his brother Makah at night), he was about 4 yrs old and he told me one evening that there was a ghost in the shower in the main bathroom...now my first thought was he was watching to much scooby doo on TV and told him that he was and blew it off at that. The next year his brother Makah ( which they are 1 yr and 4 months apart) said the same thing...now I thought his brother told him that there was a ghost in the shower and was mad at him, saying "why did you tell your brother that there was a ghost in the shower" thinking I was going to be up all night with him and nightmares. He looked at me with fear on his face saying, " Grandma... there's a ghost in the shower"! I realize that he didn't tell his brother that and that he must of forgotten or just didn't remember that he told me that last year. I told him that his brother was just young and didn't know what he was talking about and told both of them not to worry about it...as not to cause problems. Now during the day I babysit my oldest daughter son Christian then too( who is 5 months apart from Makah) no... they was never together, only on holidays then) and when he said the same thing, I was getting a bit tired of hearing it, not to be funny, but told him at least it was a clean ghost and left it at that, cause I didn't know what to make of it and never felt anything in the bathroom and nothing has ever happen. Then two years ago, Makah was 6 yrs old then, we was outside flying his plane in our field, (I live on 5 acres in the country) and Malik his brother was in the house playing on the computer when Makah looked over at the well house and saw what he thought was his brother going into the well house, he said "Grandma... Malik went into the well house", I thought Malik went into the well house to get a 7up without asking ( kids will be kids) and told Makah to go see what he was doing in the well house. Makah went to the well house and just stood in front of the door with a confuse look on his face...I yelled at him "what" and he said he wasn't in there. Now I was thinking some how he had miss seeing him going back into the house and told him to go inside the house and see what his brother got from the well house. He came back outside to the field where I was... with a confuse look on his face and I asked him "Well, what did he get out of the well house"? He said he asked his brother why he was in the well house and his brother said he wasn't in the well house and that anyways his brother had a red shirt on and the person he saw had a blue shirt on...I didn't know what to tell him except hummm I don't know what to say.You see It's not that I don't believe.. just that sometime it's better to leave things alone if it's not causing any harm, my mother had taught that to me, my brothers and sisters when we was young and would get scared, I was raised in the country way in the sticks where we would hear lots of things at night and see things that we didn't know what it was but left it alone and went on with our lifes and not let it consume our every day lives and nothing has ever came of it...we didn't have a cam ( guessing it was to expensive to have it develop then and we only had a projector cause my brother who was in the airforce cam Vietnam in the 60's and sent the tape to us to watch) when I was young we only had a recorder when they came out so we could record all of us and send it to by brothers in Vietnam and my brothers would send their back ( my dad was into electronics, it's what he major in college, he use to make his own radios and worked on TV's then, if he was alive he would love all the electronics today) and yes we did record the night outside noises and got some strange noises but I have learn to live with the night outside noises. Do my grandsons get a bit freak out here, yes at times they do but have learned to leave it alone and that it's ok to be a bit freaked out when you don't understand something, we even put up a camp site at the end of the 5 acres by the woods so during the late spring, summer and early fall we can put up our tents, the table and have a fire going and listen to and record the night noises and I even bought a powerful flashlite so we can see what is out there and we have seen deer, bobcats, raccoons, cyotes, stray dogs, cats, etc. and hear things we can't explain...there are just somethings you can't solve or make it go away...you just learn to live with it.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: billyguitar on May 04, 2007, 03:07:09 PM
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    I think Krazymoose's runner is one weird thing but if it doesn't react to anything it obviously doesn't see them or is some kind of a repeating residual entity. I wouldn't like it either but it doesn't seem likely to do any harm to anyone or anything.
    Pumpkin's well house ghost is interesting!
    Yea, the fake shadow with red eyes is probably just really hung over. Chugging that ectoplasm too much will do it everytime!


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on May 04, 2007, 08:14:37 PM
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    Ladybug, I didn't get that impression at all, notice I said "lack of skeptism" meaning you are a believer after your experiences. I appreciate everyones help no matter how far out there it may sound. A year ago I wouldn't have thought I would be a regular visitor to this board let alone posting about my experience.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on May 04, 2007, 08:17:43 PM
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    Quote from: LadyBug on May 04, 2007, 08:56:00 AM
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    Question for ya - do you happen to know who the owners of your home was before you? To maybe contact them to see if they ever witnessed anything? That's kind of a strange thing to ask someone - but you never know!



    This house was custom built on this raw property prior to my living here, thus there were no previous owners, and I have been googling for pictures since the first day this thing ran out in front of me. Not having much success on getting an exact match


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: sgtnunes on May 11, 2007, 11:07:51 PM
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    Hey KM,

    I have a question about the drawing of Vincent that you did. When you see him, does he appear so human? In the drawing, the lines are very distinct and solid, and I was just wondering if that was just because it was the best way you could draw it. Does he really appear less solid and less distinct? Does his head appear so human, or is it hard for you to tell?

    Also, you say that he runs like lightning - about how long would you say each sighting lasts for? a second? three seconds?

    Thanks, and I hope you can shed some light on what's going on. I grew up on Cape Cod, in MA, which has a ton of paranormal activity because of how old a lot of the buildings and houses are and becuase of how much history there is. I've always been fascinated by this stuff, and your case really intrigues me. It makes me think about how small of a window our perceptions really let us see through, and makes me wonder if there really are some things going on around us that just aren't within that tiny spectrum of what we can see. Best of luck!
    -SGT Nunes


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Kari Breed on May 13, 2007, 11:45:11 AM
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    Hey Moose!

    First, I want to say thanks for being so diligent in keeping us updated and answering everyone's questions on here so patiently. I hope I don't repeat what anyone else said, but I skimmed through other people's posts, focusing on yours. Sorry, it's a long thread!

    As for your son, how old is he? It's common for kids to see spirits, so it might be that all you can do is to help him feel comfortable with this ability. Also, I wonder if he can ask his invisible friends if they know who the running man is. Might be interesting.

    I, too hear what sounds like someone speaking (very faintly, so I can't be sure) on your audio. Also, I was wondering if the place has a history you know of where the woods burned. Maybe you got a recording of a replay of that?? Also, are there any objects on your porch that might make those sounds if they were played with? I find it extremely interesting that so many EVPs have cracking noises in them. Makes me wonder what that's all about.

    Have you read any of the Carlos Castaneda books? There are a lot of them, and they can be a little creepy, but the running man instantly reminded me of something in one of those books - it's a way of running that is taught to Carlos by the sorcerers he works with. Specifically the bringing up high of the feet. Might be worth checking into. I'd narrow down which book(s) it's in, but heck if I can remember. Also in one or more of them is reference to something called an Inorganic Being, which sounds a little familiar to your Vincent, though I don't recall hearing about them running.

    I wanted to make a suggestion for when you are sitting in wait for Vincent, trying to catch sight of him. We people apparently can accidentally block things from happening by our feelings of hope or expectation. Maybe we literally broadcast our vibes out there and inadvertently block what we're hoping to attract. My suggestion is for you to sit in a relaxed state of observing, trying to not think too much. Trying to not send your energy or thoughts outward. Maybe this will help.

    Also, your theory about the energy portal shifting east is as good as any and as impossible to prove as any! LOL!

    On a final note, be patient. Many people have searched for years to experience as much as you have in these past handful of months. It takes some time. Try not to make yourself nuts over it (which is what I would do!). I wish I could come out there and help you with this!



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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on May 15, 2007, 01:16:17 AM
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    Also, I was wondering if the place has a history you know of where the woods burned. Maybe you got a recording of a replay of that?? Also, are there any objects on your porch that might make those sounds if they were played with? I find it extremely interesting that so many EVPs have cracking noises in them. Makes me wonder what that's all about.


    Interesting point, since so many have mentioned the crackling sound as if it were something burning. I checked with my neighbor who has lived in this area for over 25 years and she mentioned the structure which used to be at the base of my property, a trading post or somthing like it, also the same area where we found the indian artifacts. Before the frontage road was put in by the county, she stated the remains of that structure were all charred as if it had been burned to the ground, it eventually was dug up and paved over to make room for the road but she said there clearly was old charred posts where the small structure stood. Also my front porch area is cement with nothing but a wooden swing hanging, nothing on the groud to make any noise. My son is 8 year old, I have kept the information about this being from him in fear of creating a frightening atmosphere for him, I have enough trouble getting him to sleep in his room....maybe 1 time a week he will fall asleep in there, but the rest of the time he is only confortable by my side.
    I havent read any of those books you mentioned but will certainly check into them, and I thank you for your response.


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    Quote from: phoover on May 10, 2007, 11:07:46 PM
    Hey Krzymoose

    I was surfing around for some ghost videos on the web and I think I ran acrossed something that might look like your shadow-guy. It's contained in a rather lenghty mini-documentary called Ghosts by JKcinema, who makes the Urban Legends series. About five minutes into the documentary, in the segment called "Ghost Videos", right after "ghost on a security tape", there's a video of a shadowy form (caught from a moving car, no less) walking across the road. Check it out and see if this resembles your pal Vincent. And by the way, when it says "One last thing.." and the narrative tells you to look at the back door, don't bother. They threw a gag in at the end. Most of the rest of the stuff is supposed to be authentic, though. The vidoe can be seen at several websites. Here's a link to one of them:

    http://emuse.ebaumsworld.com/flash/play/747/


    Thanks for that phoover, I must admit it the posture of that thing was similiar, although it seems blurry to me and some say it may be something just on the windshield of the car. The being we see is sharply outlined, with a semi-transparent center...I have not noticed any blurring other than the one time the rippled effect was surrounding it, but that was only on the atmosphere around it not the actual being.
    Saw vincent again last Friday morning, but without the ripple so I have no idea why it appears at times and not others.


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    Quote from: sgtnunes on May 11, 2007, 11:07:51 PM
    Hey KM,

    I have a question about the drawing of Vincent that you did. When you see him, does he appear so human? In the drawing, the lines are very distinct and solid, and I was just wondering if that was just because it was the best way you could draw it. Does he really appear less solid and less distinct? Does his head appear so human, or is it hard for you to tell?

    Also, you say that he runs like lightning - about how long would you say each sighting lasts for? a second? three seconds?

    Thanks, and I hope you can shed some light on what's going on. I grew up on Cape Cod, in MA, which has a ton of paranormal activity because of how old a lot of the buildings and houses are and becuase of how much history there is. I've always been fascinated by this stuff, and your case really intrigues me. It makes me think about how small of a window our perceptions really let us see through, and makes me wonder if there really are some things going on around us that just aren't within that tiny spectrum of what we can see. Best of luck!

    The drawing is done with the best of my artistic ability, and is shown to display bascically what he looks like. His head appears as shown but without main features such as eyes, mouth ears, etc... he is semi-transparent in the middle, with thick sharp outlines, very defined edges. The sightings last, we estimate about 3-5 seconds possilby a bit longer depends on where he's seen. thanks for asking
    -SGT Nunes



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    Quote from: krzymoose on May 15, 2007, 01:29:31 AM
    Thanks for that phoover, I must admit it the posture of that thing was similiar, although it seems blurry to me and some say it may be something just on the windshield of the car. The being we see is sharply outlined, with a semi-transparent center...I have not noticed any blurring other than the one time the rippled effect was surrounding it, but that was only on the atmosphere around it not the actual being.
    Saw vincent again last Friday morning, but without the ripple so I have no idea why it appears at times and not others.

    Well I'm glad that you're still seeing him every so often. Have you timed the sightings? Is there any pattern to the time of day or anything like that? Sorry if this question was asked before, but I've been reading this thread from the begining and I don't go back and read all the posts. Hope you get some hard evidence soon. This is a rather interesting ordeal, and I look forward to hearing more. Keep in touch.


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    I'll wait for the movie. Krazymoose Saves The World!


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    This is really bizarre, so don't laugh, but the other day I was flipping through the channels on tv and came across the new Scooby Doo show, (I guess it's new) anyway, in the begining, before the episode started they had the introduction and they depicted the same figure that kzymoose drew back in the earlier posts. It was so similar, I couldn't believe it. Has anyone seen this? I'm not even sure what channel or network but it was definately a new Scooby cartoon show. It was all black and had long legs and appeared to be running. I even googled some of the scooby videos but no luck. It gave me the creeps.


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    Quote from: billyguitar on May 15, 2007, 12:51:25 PM
    I'll wait for the movie. Krazymoose Saves The World!


    OMG, Please don't hold your breath, HA......My goal isn't to save the world, only to have my questions answered. Thanks for the chuckle!!


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    In answer to Robins question, we are keeping a journal of the exact times and dates we see him, hopfully someday to find a connection with times/weather/dates etc...


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    Krzymoose,
    How long have your neighbor been seeing this man/thing running from your place to hers? And has any other neighbors seen him/this thing?


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    Quote from: MelodyHope on May 15, 2007, 06:27:08 PM
    Krzymoose,
    How long have your neighbor been seeing this man/thing running from your place to hers? And has any other neighbors seen him/this thing?

    My daughter has seen it off and on for about a year now, I've seen it since Oct 06, my neighbor since Nov.06. My daughter friend who stayed with us for a couple months last summer, saw him 3 times during that time span, she was not told about it and only spoke about it the 3rd time she saw it as my daughter saw it at the same time which prompted the conversation between themselves and then w/me a few weeks later.


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    Krzymoose,
    I understand that your daughter and friend has seen this, what I was asking is has any of your other neighbors seen this thing or only the 1 neighbor. Sorry Krzymoose, I guess I should of made myself clearer.


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    Quote from: MelodyHope on May 16, 2007, 07:39:55 AM
    Krzymoose,
    I understand that your daughter and friend has seen this, what I was asking is has any of your other neighbors seen this thing or only the 1 neighbor. Sorry Krzymoose, I guess I should of made myself clearer.

    Well, for the most part we don't have very many neighbors, only an elderly couple across the dirt road who don't come outside much, on the land adjacent to us, the builder and his wife just moved into their newly built home last December and havent seen anything but had an experience in their basement with overwhelming smells of cigar smoke. Thats about it for the immediate area, the couple who l ive across from them are the ones who have seen it and owns the property to where it seems to be running too.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Thanks krzymoose,
    Has your neighbor seen any other man or thing running on her place? Or just the shadow of this figure?

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    Nevermind. I thought I found something that could help. but no it's a logo nothing more.




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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on May 20, 2007, 06:24:31 AM
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    Quote from: MelodyHope on May 17, 2007, 09:22:03 AM
    Thanks krzymoose,
    Has your neighbor seen any other man or thing running on her place? Or just the shadow of this figure?

    My neighbor that has seen Vincent has only seen him running towards her property. On the other hand, the paranormal group that came up to help me also spent some time on her land as well. She has lived here about 25 years, with her husband and 2 sons..she has experienced several different things on her property over the years and the medium who came up was facinated by certain areas around her home. She also has horses on her property which she thinks are sensitive to paranormal activity and even has one horse which something happened too and its just plain crazy now, can't even get near him. While I don't consider myself sensitive or psychic to paranormal things, I have always felt very uncomfortable at her place and only go there when it's absolutely necessary. I can't explain why, its just an overwhelmiing feeling I get when I pass thru her front gate..


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    There is so much more to this story than I have written and the reason for not including the following information is because 1. I personally haven't experiened it, 2. My daughter is the only one who has seen it, 3. I wanted to focus on what "Vincent" was. I am adding this information to get opinons as to what it may be and if anyone thinks there is a connection.
    Keep in mind that I haven't seen this particular thing so I will describe exactly what my 16 year old daughter told me.
    It was around last November, she gets off the high school bus at 4pm at the base of our property then walks up thru a wooded pathway to the clearing directly behind our house. As she approached the end of the path, and came upon the clearing she saw an object which was approx 4ft high, a solid grayish white mass which was surrounded by a bright yellow/orange color. It startled her as it was somewhat inbetween where she was standing and our house. She started to move really quick to get past it and as she did it moved towards the trees near the pathway where she had come from. When she got past it she turned around to see where it was going and saw this thing go through the trees, not around them, but directly thru them and disappeared into the wooded area. She got a pretty good look at it and said the outline of it being like a bright light but without the glow. By the time she got into the house she was nearly drained of color from being frightened (although it didn't seem to threaten her) I wonder if this is something that is happening just to her because of her age and energy. I've heard that teenagers and small children are more likely to have certain experiences but am somewhat confused as to why my 8 yr old doesn't seem to have them. Or...maybe he does but doesn't view them as abnormal, She has only seen this the one time, thankfully...
    I apologize for leaving this information out, everything happened so fast for me and I was reeling on the Vincent sighting and guess I didn't want to deal with something I hadn't experienced. i dont' know if there is any connection between the two, my instinct tells me no.....but then again I'm not certain I can trust my instinct in this area we live in as it just seems to be an atmosphere unlike anywhere I have been before..

    BTW, I am talking with a real estate agent this coming week about putting my house on the market. I wonder if I have to disclose any of this information....anyone know?


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Hey Moose, are you moving because of this activity only? You can probably research the disclosure laws for your state as to whether you have to tell anyone about it.

    I'd say it's possible that everything paranormal in the area could be related simply by the energy alone. Kind of like termites - where there's one, there's probably more. It seems logical to me that this stuff could be attracted to the area because of the energy, or the area could have a vibe that makes it easy to be there or be strong there, or maybe things like this happen everywhere and the vibe on your property makes is easier for humans to tune in and see it.

    What I've heard is that it's the teenagers who witness, attract or cause poltergeist activity (whatever the case may be - nobody is sure - but I've heard speculation that it's due to changing hormones). So, your 8 year old may be too young for that. Much younger children seem to be able to see spirits quite often, but I've heard that ability usually disappears between 4 and 6.

    Also worth noting is that people in general seem to be experiencing more and more paranormal occurrences over the years. Supposedly the "veal is thinning" between worlds. I don't know if this is true. Maybe the acceptance of ghosts, etc is spreading.

    I wish I could really do something to help you in your situation - especially if this stuff is causing you to move from your home. Did any of the paranormal groups try to cleanse the area or house?


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    Wow, that must have been quite frightful for your daughter. You and you kids have had to deal with some extremely strange phenomenon over this past year. I'm sure the decision to move hasn't been an easy one, but living with peace of mind and feeling safe and secure are the most important thing. I'm just sorry that you couldn't find out who Vincent is or where he running to, reading your post have been so intriguing to many of us on this forum. Do let us know how things go. Peace to you.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    My experiance with something of this sort was very violent a friend of mine was possessed and it was pretty bad. However you have not stated anything that makes me think of it as violent so my opninion is that it may very well be a imprint left behind. It doesnt seem like an intelligent haunting however I may very well be wrong as my expierence is mostly with nature spirits and elementals.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    No they didn't as i really havent' had much goin on inside and she didn't feel anything bad was around the house, she did use some sort of tobacco and sage, (i think it was sage) in the corners though.


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    Hey Krazymoose, just was wondering how things are going for you and your family, any more paranormal activity? Have you put your house on the market?


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    Post by: casper on May 28, 2007, 10:27:59 PM
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    Moose,im thinking this must really be bothering you now as im sure you said in an earlier post you werent interested in moving.I wouldnt say anything to the agent,you are not obliged to_Other than a murder in the house i dont think you have to declare anything.Good luck!keep us posted :D


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on May 29, 2007, 02:16:29 AM
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    it's been really quiet and uneventful around her for the past couple of weeks and I welcome the peacefulness. I have appointments with real estate agents thiis week and my plan is to sell. While I don't really think there is any real threat, I don't want any of this to upset my little boy so I really feel I am doing the right thing by moving on. I will continue to post any events up until the move and plan to stay in the general area for at least a year. I still hope for some sort of conclusion or answer to this and I really thank all of you for your care and for posting the ideas and thought you had regarding this situation. I feel so blessed to have found this board and will remain a faithful follower of all the experiences being told here. You all are great! Blessings....Diana


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    Diana,
    I really appreciate you letting me try to help with the audio files, and I'm just sorry we can't seem to pull out anything substantiative. If you feel you need to move, then all my blessings go with you. And if you decide to stay, well, all my blessings will stay with you! :)

    Brooke


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    I noticed earlier you had mentioned never having been outside when you've witnessed the apparition. Were you not outside in your car when it first crossed your path?

    I tend to stick to the belief that trapped energy repeats itself. Rather like a video playing over & over again. Or the possibility of time being dementional & ocassionally colliding or overlapping. Could explain their seeming to be aware of us at times & other times not. Time and space is an amazing thing.

    Good Luck!

    Oh and I took the Waverly Tour. We were in the hallway an apparation was video taped in by GH. We didn't know this at first. Once it was devulged that we were not only in the hallway but then the exact room it ran into... people had a collective 'creepy awe' response. You could see their perception & awareness change just by being told something about their situation. I found myself watching each person afterwards. It was interesting. Some seemed to want to Tune In while others Tuned Out so to speak. Maybe you're Tuned In and just were never aware of how much until it occured.

    TC!

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    Quote from: onlyelise on May 29, 2007, 08:27:13 PM
    Diana,
    I really appreciate you letting me try to help with the audio files, and I'm just sorry we can't seem to pull out anything substantiative. If you feel you need to move, then all my blessings go with you. And if you decide to stay, well, all my blessings will stay with you! :)

    Brooke

    All the thanks should go to you Brooke, I was amazed at your passion for what you do and your willingness to step in and take the time to work on this for me...I can't thank you enough for all your help!


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on May 30, 2007, 06:01:38 PM
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    Quote from: Coyote_Blond on May 30, 2007, 06:55:44 AM
    I noticed earlier you had mentioned never having been outside when you've witnessed the apparition. Were you not outside in your car when it first crossed your path?


    By saying I was never outside I meant that the only time we had seen him up to one point was behind a window, whether it be our front house window or the windshield of my car. Then a few months ago when I saw him while standing outside, is when I noticed the ripple effect surrounding him, which I had not noticed before or since. Not sure why seeing him behind a window would make it look different. But it did


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    huh cool... but you said it does the same thing? could it be a residual haunting?


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Quote from: Kosaki on May 30, 2007, 08:06:27 PM
    huh cool... but you said it does the same thing? could it be a residual haunting?


    Yes it runs in its unusual manner but not in the same place. The areas where we have seen him vary in approx 1 acrea area


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Quote from: krzymoose on May 30, 2007, 05:58:21 PM
    All the thanks should go to you Brooke, I was amazed at your passion for what you do and your willingness to step in and take the time to work on this for me...I can't thank you enough for all your help!


    Hey, you're welcome sweetie... let me know if I can do anything else! Good luck! :D

    Brooke


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    Quote from: Patrishimo2 on June 03, 2007, 09:26:28 AM
    why would an alien be running track?

    ok I'll bite....why?
    (psst....did anyone say this was an alien?) ;D


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Epona on June 03, 2007, 07:41:43 PM
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    I believe someone said that a bit earlier, but then I am behind on things since I have been so ill.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    i have been following this since the beginning...very interesting stuff...who knows what it is...maybe its best not to know.

    i have 2 theories...

    1. its a residual haunting of a streaker from the 60's :eek:

    2. its a residual haunting of a caveman running from the dinosaurs. just hope you dont see the residual haunting of the dinosaur. ???

    seriously, i hope you catch it on film or video.



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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Hey krzymoose, its been quite a while since you've posted anything regarding Vincent so things must be pretty quiet on the west coast. As I remember you were contemplating selling your house I hope things are going smoothly for you and your family.

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    my goodness. i just read all 21 pages of postings on this subject. how incredbily interesting and I am soooo very sorry that you feel that this thing might be disrupting the mental stability of your family in a way that forces you to think about moving from your home.

    You have something that is just so captivating, and the audio recordings were exciting! Though it did sounds like a babbling brook or water run off from the mornings rain. I used to live in a very remote cabin in the NC mountains and would hear some of the strangest noises at times - one things though is that sometimes you could hear water running no matter how hard from a ways away. (I found this when I hiked sections of the AT and other trails also). When your remote - your senses become heightened. BUT this figure? It really has me dumbfounded. The ONLY thing I can possibly think of is that it is a being passing from dimension to dimension or has found some sort of worm hole or vortex or whatever you want to call it. There are so many things in this world that are never easily explainable.

    The absence of the night sounds in the audio was odd, but there are some kind of small bird that is indigenous to mountain areas that likes to hop around in the underbrush...that could be another idea. I know they have scared the living ---- out of me before during nights AND days hiking.

    there was someone who posted something pertaining to atomic technology and the development, testing and ultimate use of atomic/nuclear technology that is an incredibly interesting theory - such a huge impact of the force of the energy released from such blasts could produce tears - because i mean there is a threshold limit to the speed of light and sound.....


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    i need someone to remind me to go through my posts for spelling and grammer before posting...LOL!


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Hi Folk, sorry for the lack of posting, I am currently out of state on an extended vacation, I will be returning this weekend and will post any new developments, or happenings at that time. I saw Vincent a couple of days before I left which was last week so I know he's still runnning about. More later.....


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    Good to hear from you krzymoose, Its so good that you have been able to get away for a vacation.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Vacation? What's that? I haven't had more than 5 days in a row off in over 25 years except when I was unjustly fired a few years ago!!


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Well I made it home safe and sound, quite the trip I might add. I even went to Kentucky and didn't have time to do the Waverly Hills tour but called to get directions so I could at least drive by it.....as it turns out...you can only drive by it if you are doing the tour since its on private property and gated, so I was a little disappointed by that. Maybe next trip.
    Tours are only running Fri/Sat/Sunday btw.
    I will be keeping my eye out for vincent, hopefully I will capture something on film before my house sells. Will be back with any new developments.


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    I am glad that you are back. I am sorry that you did not get to drive by the Waverly House... I hope that you do get to go on the tour soon, though.


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    Hope your feeling better Epona!


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    Post by: Epona on June 30, 2007, 03:44:13 AM
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    Much better now. And things have quieted down here quite a lot... I am keeping my watch bells out though just in case.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Marlowe on June 30, 2007, 09:22:57 AM
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    I didn't have time to read through all the posts but thought I'd share something that happened to my friends daughter. My friend "Kim"s husband was doing renovations in the kitchen to the ceiling that left an open area on the ceiling. Well while watching t.v. in the next room there daughter "Lucy" seen a shadow person like figure jump out from the open area of the ceiling in the kitchen and run down the hallway. She has never seen it since, but they do experience strange things like doorknobs turning and doors opening and strange sounds.


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    Quote from: Epona on June 30, 2007, 03:44:13 AM
    Much better now. And things have quieted down here quite a lot... I am keeping my watch bells out though just in case.


    Ok, I have to ask..."What is a watch bell" ? (sorry, i'm uneducated in this field) ;D


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    Post by: Epona on July 10, 2007, 07:55:18 PM
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    Its an asian tradition to place bells around a place where there is a lot of spirit activity, when the bells are rung, the spirits move away from it because the sound acts like a purification or excorcism of sorts. It doesn't work on a permanent basis, but it can relieve some of the spirit activity. When Ray went to Japan, he brought back a lot of these bells that were blessed at a monestary there.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: billyguitar on July 11, 2007, 06:18:15 AM
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    That's the opposite of what David Wells said on Most Haunted one night, silly show that it is. they used a Tibetan Singing Bowl to get the spirits attention before a seance. That is a different sound than a bell ringing but similar.


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    it is different. But then different cultures have different beliefs.


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    Please keep us posted as to what the investigation reveals. I have had two experiences with a similar shadow. One occured when I was a kid and again in the last few months. It was the same type of shadow both times. Check out, I Ain't Afraid of no Ghost part 1 & 2 under personnel experiences.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Hummingbird on July 27, 2007, 03:36:08 PM
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    Hey krzymoose, I still think about you and Vincent, and wonder if he still makes appearances. Have you sold your property yet?


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  6. missy

    missy Residual

    Wow, you have been busy. Can't wait for the new stuff!!!!

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  7. krzymoose

    krzymoose Residual

    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Quote from: Epona on July 31, 2007, 02:31:56 AM
    Anything happen recently? Any activity?


    Hi thanks for still wondering about us. I haven't seen Vincent directly in the last 3 weeks, but caught a glimpse of the back end of him a couple of days ago, it was only a partial view and was in the same spot where my daughter sees him, I believe he was in the process of going "out" Things have really been hectic here and my house is currently up for sale. The paranormal group who has helped us in the past had contacted me wanting to come out last Saturday but I declined to respond due to the problems this all has caused in my ife. I think I guess I am adopting the "out of sight, out of mind" attitude with this. While Vincent no longer scares me or concerns me in anyway, I have come to the conclusion that even if he is seen by a paranormal group that they won't be able to identify this thing any more than I can. Therefore, I guess what I really needed help with was learning to live with the fact that he is here and there really isn't anything I can do about that. As long has he stays in his space and doesn't infiltrate me living space, I am ok with it Thanks to the help of Bay Area Paranormal Investigations and all of you who comforted me with your words and concern. I will definately will continue to post any updates as they happen. You guys rock!! Blessings...Diana


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    I hope someone can get a picture or video of this before you move out!


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Quote from: MelRedux on August 03, 2007, 02:28:20 PM
    Moose I'm glad you posted!! I'm new to the boards, and spent over an hour reading this entire thread the other night. I'm FASCINATED by all this. I really hope you keep us posted, and I really hope you get a video of him. What's been going on with the cameras?

    I feel awful you feel like you have to sell your house. I wish you all the best, and good luck with the sale!

    Please please please keep us posted!!!!

    thanks for posting MelRedux, I forgot to mention that I have given my DVD Recordings to a friend of mine who is currently unemployed and has time to go over each one again in hopes of finding that elusiive frame of Vincent which I was so sure is there....I'll keep you all posted! Crossing my fingers & my toes this time.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Ya know, I got interested in this thread when I first came back here earlier this year. It was what kept me here then, cause I wanted to see what happened with it. Now I am hooked on reading the posts and have no intentions of leaving the board.




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    Sounds like a Sasquatch sighting.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Quote from: krzymoose on August 03, 2007, 02:43:44 PM
    thanks for posting MelRedux, I forgot to mention that I have given my DVD Recordings to a friend of mine who is currently unemployed and has time to go over each one again in hopes of finding that elusiive frame of Vincent which I was so sure is there....I'll keep you all posted! Crossing my fingers & my toes this time.

    Patiently awaiting the findings.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Quote from: mnbigfoot on August 03, 2007, 07:41:01 PM
    Sounds like a Sasquatch sighting.

    if sasquatch is about 8 feet tall, skinny, and only partially visible, with no hair and looks more human than animal, then u could be right. ( sorry, I couldn't resist) ;D


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    One thing that was brought up, but to which there was no resolution....

    Have you done any scanning for EMF pollution?

    I understand the need to sell the house and move....but before doing that I would check for EMF pollution from either your house, or from outside the house.

    I've mentioned it before, but I'll do so again, the best episode that Ghost Hunter's aired, was the one on the guy renovating this place he purchased.

    One of the areas, was a hot spot for shadow people, it turned out to be an electrical outlet, in that area, was leaking excessive + dangerous amounts of EMF pollution.
    What was most interesting, is that both the guy and the female friend had SIMILAR experiences regarding shadow people there, in other words they were both experiencing the "same" EMF induced hallucination. (that is not to say that I don't believe in spirits).
    Also there was mold problems, as well as toxic fume issues from one work area where he kept a lot of chemicals...that were being pumped into the entire house by the central air conditioning unit that was in same area.

    Have you slept in your son's room? I realize the need to not scare your son, but it irks me when kids mention this kind of stuff to parents and the parents REFUSE to take it seriously (I'm not saying this is what you're doing). I would ask, maybe ambiguous questions, to see if your son is being "taunted" or something.






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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on August 07, 2007, 11:51:47 PM
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    Quote from: tess on August 06, 2007, 10:57:16 PM
    This wouldn't apply because its all happening out side and covers several acre's of land. Its not in the house. I am curious to know if she lives around power lines.

    There are power lines on the other side of the road, we aren't real close to any transformers though. We do seem to lose our power quite a bit during the winter months when its storms. We also haven't ever turned on our central heating unit in the 3+ years we've lived here. The house is thoroughly heated by a wood stove (saves quite a bit of money too, I might add)
    Also I have slept in my sons room, and I think once the thought is placed in your head that at times one can imagine things which may not be there. I've had 2 guests this past summer stay in his room, without knowledge of anything happening and not a word was said of anything unusual. I am very in tune to what my son does whether its in his room or out of it. I have also questioned him repeatedly about who he talks to when he's jabbering away up there, his response is "his friends" He has been sleeping up there in the past month tho so I take that as he either used to whatever it could be or there isn't anything really there...hard to tell.

    2 nites ago about 3 oclock in the morning, (i'm a nite owl so I was up working) and in the great room/family room there was a fairly loud rapping/knocking sound on an interior wall, then it moved up to the area of my sons room. I went up to see what it could be thinking it might be plumbing noises or something but it stopped then started up again out in the garage area (inside) sounded like someone was knocking/pounding lightly on the wall. It lasted for about a hour then stopped. I've never experienced anything like that before and never did find the source.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on August 07, 2007, 11:55:54 PM
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    Quote from: tess on August 07, 2007, 04:22:58 AM
    I know you gotta be tired of repeating yourself over and over again by now. (Grin and a wink) I went through this whole thing. It is so interesting . I got to the point where I was getting tried of you having to repeat the same things over and over again at times (http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/ima ... es/lol.gif) I cant imagine how it has been for you. Your have been very kind and patient . Thank you for sharing this.

    I'll tell you how it's been for me, honestly I don't know what I would have done without the kindness and helpfulness of everyone one here on this forum. I could stand on a hilltop and shout for those who need help or comfort to come here because it truly is given in large doses! I just cant thank everyone enough for all the help and insight!!


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    krzymoose, that's wonderful to hear.

    There is a corp of good, caring people here who are serious about helping. And we get more good ones all the time.

    This is a special place.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Hi Krzymoose, I've been following this from the time I joined the forum in January. I can't remember if I've posted or not (probably have) but I just wanted to add my support. You have support from all over the world on here. So good luck with the next part of your journey and I hope you have no trouble selling and finding a new peacefull place to live. Many Blessings to you and your family.



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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    I would be careful about allowing children to having "invisible friends". Taking care of kids is such a huge responsibility, so many things to watch out for.
    Anyway, as I was saying, "invisible friends" can be dangerous, it is possible that these are in fact spirits that he is communing with. If he's carrying on full blown conversations, I would find out more info on this. Does he know he's pretending? Does he actually "hear" them?

    As far as knocking noises, do you know if you have any underground rivers in your area?

    There was one post here a while back, about people living nearby a military base (I think it was military....or maybe just some big airplane company), and they would experience rattling of things in house (not from plane going overhead). Many thought it was poltergeist activity, it turned out to be the testing of some engines they were developing, and it was putting out very loud but sub-sonic (non-audible) waves of sound.

    The point is, we should strive to find physical answers to things like knocking noises before ascribing poltergeists to them.

    (as a side note, I experienced "scratching and clawing" noises from the wall at the head of my bed, very loud and audible, instead of assigning poltergeists as the source, I decided to conclude it was squirrels, still....it was very creepy)


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Mikitsu on August 10, 2007, 01:42:26 AM
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    I just saw this thread again and thought I would post about the mirror...
    I have been seeing, not dark shadows, but light ones. I have a mirror behind my computer monitor and I "see" movement in it from time to time. All this of course started happening after I got a pic of a large "orb" type object in a picture by my rifle. I think he ran the dark shadows out, but he makes noise, and once opened a door. My mom is the only one to have seen him. Hope you can get a picture (or video) of vincent, that would be very delightfully spooky :eek:


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Just thought I would update you all..... My friend went thru all the recorded dvd's and didn't find the image, other than a couple of wierd looking mists he seems able to avoid the camera. So while I am still here, I've decided to reposition them and hopefully something will show up. Vincents still here, at least he was up until 5 days ago. I'll post again if something new happens. Blessings


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Quote from: krzymoose on September 07, 2007, 01:41:45 AM
    Just thought I would update you all..... My friend went thru all the recorded dvd's and didn't find the image, other than a couple of wierd looking mists he seems able to avoid the camera. So while I am still here, I've decided to reposition them and hopefully something will show up. Vincents still here, at least he was up until 5 days ago. I'll post again if something new happens. Blessings


    You poor thing krzymoose, it must be so frustrating for you seeing this thing and not being able to capture the evidence. Keep looking and hopefully you will find what you are looking for. Good Luck!!


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Its great to see your post, just sorry things didn't show up on the DVD's regarding Vincent. He is such a curiousity.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Quote from: celticwitch on September 07, 2007, 02:32:15 AM
    You poor thing krzymoose, it must be so frustrating for you seeing this thing and not being able to capture the evidence. Keep looking and hopefully you will find what you are looking for. Good Luck!!

    I agree, keep looking. The evidence is out there.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Bad Lieutenant on September 08, 2007, 10:53:55 AM
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    KRZYMOOSE:
    I read almost all of the threads from your first post on this issue through all the greaty replies and responses from the esteemed members of this forum and have some suggestions from a very practical (yet paranormal believing) old homicide detective. In these suggestions I do hope I don't go over old information from the threads I haven't read yet that have already been discussed. If I do, I apologize for wasting time. Bear with me for a few ....

    In homicide investigations you always collect loose, transient evidence from the scene and body as well as taking interviews from any witnesses who come forward or those who you seek and are willing to talk. At the same time you identify the body (if you can) positively. Based on the identity, you investigate the victim's movements over the past 72 hours and you normally find some sort of contact with the killer(s). To put a homicide case together, you look at EVERYTHING at the scene, the body, the killing activity, evidence, and witness statements, and interrogation results from the suspects then put all together giving you a clear picture of probable cause or direct evidence linking who, did what, to whom.

    Having said all the foregoing, you may want to consider using the same techniques we used in homicide investigations to help put a picture togehter of what may have led up to the sightings. The very first thing a homicide investigator does when they get the call is to "put on a game face" ready to view the gruesome and disgusting. You have to do this in a few seconds because you will see the pain and suffering of someone before death as you arrive at the scene, ... after the initial shock, you need ALL your logic senses in order to objectively look at what happened and formulate a logic reason why this happened and by who. The detective then records; date, time, location, and weather of the event - on paper. Carry a small tape recorder and if necessary a tape measure to get measurements at the scene. Also a small digital camera with extra batteries may assist if you come across something of evidence that doesn't belong. Take your time (as much as you can) in gathering ALL evidence because once you leave the scene nothing else can be used as evidence if other people animals, etc, disturbs the scene. So, ... having a 'matrix' on paper of investigatory questions you can check off will assist a novice slueth, then after a while it comes naturally.

    How does the foregoing connect with your sightings? Immediately after you have another sighting or sounding of noises, PUT OB YOUR GAME FACE. Don't let the event fluster you. Gather you equipment (I used to call mine the 'combat pack') in a bag and start recording known facts: date, time, weather, direction of travel of the entity, size of entity, actions of the entity, any out of normal smell duriing or after the entity showed itself .. # of raps and taps, from where, how loud, were the raps and taps in a looped syncopation or random, gather anyone's statement immediately who might have also witnessed this event. Go to the ground where you had seen the entity and look for anything on the ground that might have unusual impressions - if yes, photo and measure and record in your notebook. Also record what YOU were wearing, the type perfume, deodorant, your hair style and color, and any jewelry you were wearing. Also .. after you can do no more to record the event of present, ... sit down and put down in your notebook who you had contact with, what you wore, where you went, etc. over the past 72 hours. Now you have recorded your comings and goings, what you wore, smelled like, jewelry worn, who you spoke with and possibly witness statements, the typw weather going on during this time up to and on the day of the sighting, and the events of the sighting to include any solid trace evidence described and photo'd you may have found. Once you have started to collect your 'case' against the entrity (shadow person), share this information with paranormal investigators or others who specialize in this type event. They will be peasnatly surprised at your accuracy of event - by doing all the foregoing, patterns may be discovered and researched in history books narrowing down what the entity could possibly be. You will at least walk away with a sense of "I've done all I possibly could do and feel good about getting closer to solving what/who this is and why". I'm positive you will sleep better, knowing you are on top oif at least recording what happens as it happens.

    Good luck to you, ... and please continue to share with us any updates as you have been!
    B. L.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    ... please forgive my lack of proof reading the foregoing, ... it is embarrassing for me to read so I know it for anyone else too. My apologies.

    B.L.


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    You did good! No embarrassment necessary.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Wow! Thanks Lieutenant! I have printed your suggestions and will follow them to the letter! You sure gave me a new respect on your expertise!


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    krzymoose:
    Thank you for your kind words. You know, .. if you think about it from a different perspective, every ghost hunter is actually a 'death investigator' who uses all the tools of a homicide investigator, ... just way more after the fact ;D . hahaha I had a case when I was a detective where a perpetrator would only come by a woman's house to attempt rape her because of one thing - her perfume. It drove him crazy and put his mind into a stalking mode where he had to get close to her and become her (his words). He had plans of kidnapping and killing her,... but those desires were never acted upon until she wore a certain perfume that attracted him and twisted his mind somehow. He wore a heavy disguise each time he tried to break in to her home and actually was a next door neighbor of hers and a "great friend" as she described him, but you never know what sets people (or entities off) until you establish a pattern. We used to have detectives stake out the home on certain nights we thought he would hit the hoime, but he never showed up. Then one night while we had two undercover cars sitting in the neighborhood with night vision scopes, he hit again actually gaining entry into the home and confronting her in her bedroom, she screamed alerting her kids (single mom) who called 911. Officers immediately responded from the surveillance cars and found nothing, ... no trace of him. We then sat down with this lady and asked her to describe every move she made for 72 hours. In her rendition of what she did, very detailed I might add, she said that she sprayed her blue business blazer with a certain perfume because on Fridays she sits at open houses (she was a realtor) and this particular perfume lasted a long time but she only wore it when she was out of the office showing a home for 8 or more hours because if the hoime didn't have air conditioning, she would perspire heavily and didn't want to offend any potential buyer. In her story she also stated who she had contact with that day. One of the people was her next door neighbor - a male 15 years her junior, but married. When running his background, he had charges of lewd behavior and attempt sexual contact when he was a teenager. He became our prime suspect. I personally asked the lady if she could remember contacting this neighbor, or him contacxting her, on any specific days, ... namely the days all the previous attempts had been made. She said that usually her kids would order pizza on Fridays and some of the irregular days she'd sit at open houses because they didn't want mom to have to cook when she got home tired. So when mom got home around 6PM on those days, the next door neighbor would be outside 'watering his lawn' close to her driveway. She woudl see him, wave and stop to chat just for a few seconds - in the blue business blazer and THAT perfume. Attempts were usually made late that night. We decided to test the next door neighbor before we questioned him. We put a detective ini the home that night facing the perps side and back yards. At 6PM on a Wednesday, the woman came home parked in her driveway, made small talk with the perp who was religiously watering his lawn in the same spot - all the while she was wearing an extra dose of that perfume. At about 2AM, the perp removed a a very large slat in the common wood fence iadjoing the pwona's and perp's back yards, ... snuck up to the back door and actually used a key to enter the home! He was arrested as he snuck through ther dining room on the way to the stairs towards the bedroom. He was wearing the same clothes and balaclava (hooded mask) that he had worn before. Case solved, he rolled over and confessed that he had a fantasy for this woman because he was so attracted to her perfume but only the one kind. He said all he wanted to do was make love to her and then she'd realize that he was the best person for her, ... but if she didn't agree and resisted, he would kidnap her and wouild be forced to kill her so she wouldn't ruin his marriage. Life is full of sick twists, but if you analyze EVERYTHING connected to the victim and perptrator you WILL find that common link. Sometimes it takes a long time, but after you become adept at knowing what to look for (using ALL senses) you get better and better in less time. I'd suggest, krzymoose, to make up a hard-copy 'matrix' of sorts you can use for your next sighting. This will involve making a few sheets: On the top part across the sheet of paper write: ENTITY information ONLY , then on the left margin going down double-spaced write: Height:, Width;, Density:, Color:, Shape:, Above Ground? (Yes/No), On Ground? (Yes/No), Outstanding Features:, Odor?, what type?:, Sounds Made by Entity:, Words Heard from Entity:, Estimated time observed in seconds:, How did Entity disappear?. Then start another sheet placing across the top: WHO, WHAT, WHEN, WHERE, HOW, ... and WHY - evenly spaced. Down the left side margin, skipping a line each time: My Home: (indent) Master Bedroom, Kids Room, Guest Room, Livintg Room, (list all rooms iIN your home to include basement and or staircases or attic) Then go outside and make another sheet exactly like the first only this will be for your perimeter of your home only. Liist the outside areas; Driveway(s), Garage Door, Front Porch, Front Screen Door, Friont Hardwood Door, (list all windows separately all the way around your home); list any unusual areas in your back yard, ... also include front, back and sides of your roof. Make another sheet and do the same for your nieighboirs to the left and right. Then make a final sheet listing your neighborhood street and anywhere you walk your dogs to include mentioning forest areas on either side of the road. When finished, make copies if each sheet and staple them togehter. Make a cover sheet listing your address on the cover and a few lblank lines on the front with labels: Date:, Day of Week:, Time of Cccurrence: Weather this day: you now have blank copies of your 'Shadow People Case'. When it happens again, [ut opn your gasme face, fill out the front cover sheet, then open your packet and start checking off applicable info immediately (for accurracy). Once you get done checking off all the boxes appropriate foir your experience, sit down and write a narrative on how you came to see the entity and what you remember. Once finished, you can either save for the next occurrence or contact local Ghost Hunters and have them review you very detailed account of the event. They may have expertise who might recognize the type of entity or spirit based on all the facts that you provided ion your matrix. Sooner than later, you WILL MOST LIKELY establish a pattern that will give you the necessary info to research to find out what this is and why it chooses you to see it.

    Best of luck to you and happy hunting!

    B. L.

    (Advance apologies for mispelled words and sophomoric grammar.)
    How do you feel personally about this entity? Do you feel; safe? ... anxious?, ... scared?, ... annoyed?, ... fearful?
    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    How do you feel personally about this entity? Do you feel; safe? ... anxious?, ... scared?, ... annoyed?, ... fearful?

    At first I felt confused and concerned....
    Concerned because I wasn't sure if it would come thru the walls of my house and if it did I wanted it to confront me before my kids so I got very little sleep for the first few months after the first sighting. Then I became almost obsessed with finding out what this was and why it was here. Which, I have since then, figured out I probably will never get an answer to that.
    Now I feel that it's here whether I want it to be or not. I've given this soooo much thought and truly believe that whatever it is, it's not from our realm. I think there is an opening, or possibly, several openings around this particular area which allow it to come thru and leave as it pleases. It doesn't scare me, it's just very odd to look at. I can't imagine ever seeing anything again in my life which will measure up to the uniqueness of this being....and sincerely hope I don't!
    I can't wait to get started on my project which you have outlined, and I will be back to report should I find a pattern. I've kept a fairly detailed diary of the events as they happened each time so I can start to draw from that. Thanks again...so much..for taking the time to share your experiences and expertise with us, it certainly should help us in learning that sometimes it's the smallest thing which can provide us answers to our largest questions..
    Blessings..
    Diana


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: billyguitar on September 11, 2007, 06:47:17 AM
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    Since it seems totally oblivious to you and your family it would seem to be safe.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Bad Lieutenant on September 11, 2007, 06:53:23 AM
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    Diana:
    Thank you for the kind words and sharing your story. Remember, unless you've already attempted to contact TAPS directly for help, it seems like Jason, Grant, Steve, et al, have a special place in their hearts for children who are at risk and may respond to a request from you to visit and take a 'look see'. Just in the short time I've been reading the TAPS forum and outside sources, I would look at the possibility of this entity being one of the lower ordered demons. I would consult a demonologist just to rule it out. Continued 'peace' Diana! ... and thanks again! ;D
    B. L.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    I don't think this thing is evil or harmful, it doesn't even look in our direction or any direction but straight ahead. So I'm not really worried about it doing harm. I'm not sure if it even knows it's being seen here,, or if it knows we are there. I also am not sure if anyone would be qualified to really answer all the questions I have about it as it doesn't seem like many people have had the same sighting. Thanks again for your posts!


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: bunnyfoo on September 14, 2007, 08:20:03 PM
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    I didn't get through all the pages of this topic, so this may have already been mentioned....but didn't you say that part of your land may be an indian burial site of some sort? The reason I'm asking is because of the way you described this figure as it's running....arms flapping, knees bent (kinda like high stomping) sounds like an indian dance to me.

    Just thought I'd add my two cents. Fascinating story!!!!! I'll be watching for more updates!


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: kyates7 on September 15, 2007, 07:44:04 AM
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    Hi Krazymoose, I have been off line for awhile, and haven't been able to locate an update, as to whether you caught Vincent on your cameras. Are you still seeing him? And has anything else happened since late April? Is your daughter still seeing Vincent on the road?
    Sure am glad to be back here. ;D


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Prominence on September 15, 2007, 02:38:13 PM
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    Seeing that it is described as a 8ft tall shadow being that runs weird well...it sounds like a Demon, but I don't know. This is a new one for me...


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Quote from: Prominence on September 15, 2007, 02:38:13 PM
    Seeing that it is described as a 8ft tall shadow being that runs weird well...it sounds like a Demon, but I don't know. This is a new one for me...

    Yes, very creepy really! I haven't heard of anything like this. Odd!


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    I'd check out the neighbor's house, but I think that it is a residual haunt.


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    I think you are right about that. Do you know if Vincent was ever caught on the cameras?


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    I've just finished reading all 24 pages and found your story truly fascinating! I give you so much credit for sticking with this and trying to find answers but, as a Mom , I also understand why you would decide to move. I'm sorry that I don't have any other input to give you. I think everything has pretty much already been said! Please know that even though I'm new to these posts, I'm wishing you and your family all the best! Amy


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    Quote from: kyates7 on September 15, 2007, 04:15:45 PM
    I think you are right about that. Do you know if Vincent was ever caught on the cameras?


    I know it's a LOT of pages to go through, since this was posted months ago, but I'll give a quick synopsis, one that I hope is accurate; if not, someone please correct me. The OP, her daughter, and at least one neighbor have seen the shadow, which runs through the property in different places with "his" arms and legs pumping up and down in an exaggerated manner. The OP's cat saw it one day at the same time the OP did from her house, and the cat took off and chased it (so at least someone non-human was seeing it, and wasn't afraid enough of it to run the other way.) Investigators came to her house and one (I think a psychic) told her that there may be something in the house. Her son was freaked out before the psychic came because he thought there may be something in his room.

    The OP put up a security system around her house and property that was mostly motion-sensored, but didn't catch anything. She sent me the audio files of things she thinks she may have caught in the middle of the night, but I was unable to find anything I could definitely say wasn't human or animal. Since then, she's decided to sell her house as she feels extremely uncomfortable on the property. I believe there had been a question as to Indian burial grounds and the like, but I can't remember what the answers were. Does anyone else remember? My brain can only hold so much. lol

    Brooke


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    Quote from: kyates7 on September 15, 2007, 04:15:45 PM
    I think you are right about that. Do you know if Vincent was ever caught on the cameras?


    Not yet, but we are still hopeful


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    Quote from: onlyelise on September 15, 2007, 08:19:09 PM
    I.

    The OP put up a security system around her house and property that was mostly motion-sensored, but didn't catch anything. She sent me the audio files of things she thinks she may have caught in the middle of the night, but I was unable to find anything I could definitely say wasn't human or animal. Since then, she's decided to sell her house as she feels extremely uncomfortable on the property. I believe there had been a question as to Indian burial grounds and the like, but I can't remember what the answers were. Does anyone else remember? My brain can only hold so much. lol

    Brooke


    But I want to make note that during the recording there were no humans around to make sounds, nor any visible signs of animal life.


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    Quote from: krzymoose on September 15, 2007, 09:41:43 PM
    But I want to make note that during the recording there were no humans around to make sounds, nor any visible signs of animal life.


    Right, right, sorry, I forgot to mention that!! :) I meant it in my head, tho!!

    Brooke


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    Quote from: tiff on September 15, 2007, 10:36:18 PM
    OMG this is the craziest thing I have ever read and I read every page. Please keep us posted. Its like reading a novel. More please...More. I want to know how this thing ends. Good Luck. This is something that I will think about for days to come.

    Yes, very interesting! It would make a good segment for "A Haunting". Or perhaps a good movie, maybe M. Night Shyamalan would be interested!!


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    Quote from: tiff on September 15, 2007, 10:36:18 PM
    OMG this is the craziest thing I have ever read and I read every page. Please keep us posted. Its like reading a novel. More please...More. I want to know how this thing ends. Good Luck. This is something that I will think about for days to come.


    I am right there with you Tiff..only we live it. I still hope for someone, somewhere to come forward with information of a similar sighting. I wish I could invite ya all up here to sit and watch for yourselves. It's entered my mind that maybe if more people had the opportunity to see this being, we might get closer to really figuring this out. I will post as long as you all want me to and as often as I have info to share.

    PS to Brooke... NP hun, we all have those moments! thanks for taking the time to condense it down for the other member for me...you are simply one of the best! :-*


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    Quote from: kyates7 on September 16, 2007, 07:49:26 AM
    Yes, very interesting! It would make a good segment for "A Haunting". Or perhaps a good movie, maybe M. Night Shyamalan would be interested!!


    :eek: OMG you really think so??? I dont really think its a haunting tho, but I would welcome the opportunity to spread this information, again, in hopes of finding an answer. If only I could do it in a realm as comforting as this board. I don't think I would be comfortable sitting in Montel Williams guest chair! The peeps here know what I'm going thru and only try to offer their help, comfort and suggestions. Somehow I dont think I'd get the same reaction from those who don't believe or refuse to open their minds to what I know first hand is the truth. BTW the M.Night's "The Villiage" is one of my favorite movies! ;D


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    It is such an interesting story, besides being unusual. Its the first time I have heard of this type of paranormal event. M. Night's "The Sixth Sense" is my favorite. I did like "The Village"", too. I sure hope that you are able to find out what it is. Its awful that you have to move because of this. I hope things work out for you and your family. I can't imagine how upsetting this is for you.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Hang in there krzy. We are all thinking of you and sending lots of love and positive thoughts. Hopefully you will catch some concrete evidence soon.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: kyates7 on September 17, 2007, 08:00:43 PM
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    I think writing a book is a great idea! ;DWe'll help you!!


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    I would love to write a book about this experience. I think inexperience would keep me from starting as I'm not sure how to format the story or how to begin. Any suggestions regarding this would be real helpful! Thanks again for all your support! :-*


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Quote from: krzymoose on September 17, 2007, 11:26:03 PM
    I would love to write a book about this experience. I think inexperience would keep me from starting as I'm not sure how to format the story or how to begin. Any suggestions regarding this would be real helpful! Thanks again for all your support! :-*

    Just start at the beginning. Start with what you first noticed, and move on from there.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: billyguitar on September 18, 2007, 08:17:24 AM
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    Maybe just a webpage or a Myspace page. then you could alter and update it anytime.


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    Would diffently be a great place to start! It is an exciting idea!!


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    If you can work it out, it would be a great read. I definately would hold off until you got something on video, (if you can). But truthfully, it sounds like a story that should be told. The more evidence collecting and witness accounts you can obtain, would be great. I have been following the events since the begining, and I am fascinated!
    Good luck and keep in touch.
    Robin



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    Quote from: tiff on September 18, 2007, 12:25:25 PM
    Id love for her to get something on video but the fact is even if she does there are still going to be people who say it was rigged. They will never believe. Don't hold off krzy. Start now. Its not important for everyone to believe you because not every will no matter what you get. Its important that is is told for those who will and do. I have a feeling there will be more people will come forward with similar experiences after the book gos out. Either way start getting it all together now. Don't wait. Your going to have more to add as it gos and if you never get proof it still needs to be told. Theres no proof of a lot of things supernatural. Don't let that stop you. Its things like this happening and people telling the stories that opens the doors for discovery

    I agree, you should tell your story to a responsible party, who will help you.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: onlyelise on September 18, 2007, 01:32:52 PM
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    I totally agree.. I would SO got out and buy this book. :)

    Brooke


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Epona on September 18, 2007, 07:15:26 PM
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    Quote from: tiff on September 18, 2007, 09:42:24 AM
    Start by writing it down. Do you have a word processor on your puter? If not let me know I'll send you one. Start there and make sure you back it up every night on a CD. Every time you add..... back it up. You don't want to do all this and then loose it because your computers crashes. Entitle a folder to keep all your stories interviews and pics, keep the folder on a CD. Get a voice recorder and keep recordings of any interviews you might have, then type them all, word for word later. Don't worry about formatting and how to write the book now. you still have a lot of work to do, The book will come later. Have all of it ready to go. They may assign a ghost witter or someone that can help you. This is going to take a couple of years of investigations. Depends on how much time you can dedicate to it. Do it when you can but do it. Document everything. Meanwhile, Don't worry about it. Help will come. Its on the way. Open it up to more Parinormal investigator. Dont tell them about the book. They dont know you liike we do and may get suspious. Important! Make sure you thank Everyone who hleped in the finisjhed product

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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    My word, you peeps are making me really think about doing this. Who finds a ghostwriter? Do I have to talk to a publisher about interest in this or write part of it first? I've already had the paranormal people up here and I trust that group very much. Since this started I also have become a faithful listener of coast to coast Am with George Noory. I've sent him my story a couple of times but never received a response. I was hoping he would do a show about this (not with me tho, of course) but then again, what catagory do I put this in? After reading all your enthusiam about this being put in bookform, I did do a google search on how to get started and found a wealth of info out there. This month marks 1 year since this began for me and about a year and a half for my daughter. She tends to shy away from talking about Vincent anymore.....she says he's "retarded" lol and doesn't scare her anymore.

    Something I could focus on though is the comments and feelings I have gotten from people who have come to viisit me, whether it was the paranormal group, the medium or my family members. They all have stated that the area surrounding my property is odd, and the air is strange. My sister said the first time she came up here she and her daughter felt very uncomfortable from the instant they stepped out of their car out front. Of course this was never told to me until the info came about that we had been seeing this being. She didn't want to say anything because one never knows why that feeling is there. I have it all the time so its become "old hat" for me.

    Anyway keep the suggestions coming, I take everyone to heart and hope for blessings to each of you for your continued and endless help and support. No other board would even compare to this. I wouldn't think of taking this story anywhere else again. Been there did that once..... Hugs!!!!!


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    Post by: Bad Lieutenant on September 18, 2007, 10:39:09 PM
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    Quote from: krzymoose on September 18, 2007, 07:39:12 PM
    My word, you peeps are making me really think about doing this. Who finds a ghostwriter? Do I have to talk to a publisher about interest in this or write part of it first?


    Krzy:
    Just a few suggestiions that may help in your journey to become a published author: 1) Join a college level creative writing course. Jump in the trenches and learn some very basic prose development. To be a world class sprinter, you gotta crawl first, and ... 2) Pick up a copy of the Writer's Market. This is the definitive bible on where, who, what, and when to submit ANY kind of writing medium for publication in the U.S. and world. Get the most current copy of WM as it has names of people responsibile to send your queries to for consideration and how they select 'authors' for various publication houses.

    Best of luck Krzy, ... work your investigations matrix and document everything, ... you could sitting on one heck of a story.

    Regards,....

    Bad Lieutenant


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Well I do have every detail documented in strong detail. I did take Bad L's advise and started to organize, so that part is pretty much done. My diary on this is quite extensive. I've started my outline with timelines of the events. As far as the writing goes, I'm not to worried about that, I was editor of my high schools newpaper for 2 years and took journalism classes. My concern lies mostly in finding someone to trust with my story in raw form. How do you protect yourself from someone just taking the info and using it as their own. I've thought about this happening back when I was trying to set up our first surveillance. Initially I was going to do a live feed so others could watch and hopefully capture his image but I became concerned when someone pointed out that if I had done the live feed and vincent was captured they could download the images as their own.
    While I have never expected or considered this to be a money making event for me, I do feel that if anyone should get compensation for whats we have been living thru it should be my kids and I. Does that make sense?

    Note to Bad L....I love your avatars!!


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Bad Lieutenant on September 20, 2007, 06:53:22 AM
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    KrzyM:
    It is always a pleasure to read your posts! You write very well ,and it's good news that you are no stranger to the quill. We can undrstand you reluctance for sharing this story with a ghost writer ;D but if you officially copyright register your story you should be protected very well against anyone looking to leech your story. Here's a site you may want to peruse that could help: http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html#cr

    Thanks also for your comment on avatars, ... my humor is a little off the beaten path,... but hopefully fun in a sarcastic kinda way. My teeth didn't come out as well as I'd like, but if you go to DRBUKK.com, you'll see the many models I had to choose from. They are extremely fun and awful at the same time. Take care,....
    -Bad Lieutenant

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    Post by: bisjoe on October 02, 2007, 07:04:37 AM
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    I just came across this thread and read it start to finish. It reminded me of something that I experienced many years ago in the Valley Springs area of CA. Must have been about 1985. I was driving a 15 passenger van with executives from the public agency I worked for, on the way to a lakeside "retreat" during a nasty rainstorm and saw a similar figure cross the road in front of me. With the group in the van I didn't mention it, and in fact I thought the weather had something to do with tricking my eyes. The only research I did (before there was so much available on the internet) was that this was an area where many native Americans had lived and died as is the case in much of the Sierra foothills.

    Was there a tribe at one time in your area? You may be able to track down some older member that can provide information on your runner, they do have beliefs in spirits protecting their land/buried dead even after all the live members have left the area. Here in the Seattle area there are a lot of problems with construction projects unearthing burial grounds. Typically the dead were buried away from the village, often across a river to prevent the ghosts from coming back to the village. Perhaps your Vincent is trying to get back to his village.

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    I was looking through this thread again and I was wondering what ever happened to the drawing that was posted so we could get an idea of what vincent looked like? Krzymoose drew it back in the earlier part of the thread I believe. Anyone?


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Quote from: robin on October 04, 2007, 01:06:47 PM
    I was looking through this thread again and I was wondering what ever happened to the drawing that was posted so we could get an idea of what vincent looked like? Krzymoose drew it back in the earlier part of the thread I believe. Anyone?

    I went all thru the thread again and couldn't find my drawing either...I know it is there! I am posting it again for you all...

    (http://www.ssb4.net/users/12093/runner_1191531801.jpg)

    Keep in mind that I'm not a very good artist, but this reflects basically how he looks


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: billyguitar on October 04, 2007, 04:33:42 PM
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    I think it's young Elvis running to catch the city bus! :) (couldn't resist a little joke)


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Quote from: billyguitar on October 04, 2007, 04:33:42 PM
    I think it's young Elvis running to catch the city bus! :) (couldn't resist a little joke)


    HAHA


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Hey Moose been a while since i checked out your story ;D did you move after all? I think the book is a great idea,just make sure you are uncontactable!!! Can you imagine the hoards of frustrated readers wanting to check out your place? :eek: ;)


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Quote from: firehop on October 04, 2007, 01:37:52 PM
    Actually, the Holy Bible speaks of the "hosts and principalities of this present darkness" and about one fifth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ deals with the demons. Such things are very real. ... I would be most careful with this if I were you. ... I don't want to scare you, just want you and your family to be careful with this thing.

    firehop:
    I'm with you. I copied and pasted 3 of the things you said in your post that should be a caveat to those who make the decision to make Ghost Hunting an honest worthwhile ordeal - whether after regular hours or for a full time pursuit. Your cautionary warning holds merit for all the reasons you mention, and because of what you said, I have to say here that in 1982 I worked with a co-worker in Law Enforcement who was an aspiring writer of biographies and non-fiction. I had known Bob K. a long time before he finally knew me well enough to reveal a story of a 'man' he interviewed who had actually called forth a full aparition of a demon. This 'man' had pursued a post graduate master's degree in deviant psychology and got too engrossed in studying parapsychology, occult, and demonology. From what Bob said , this man ended up literally bartering for his soul with the demon who answered this man's cermony and incantations. This is a whole other story, but suffice it to say, at the end of the interview, Bob said this "man" told him how the demon had threatened to immolate him because he wasn't ready to serve the underworld and master of same. Bob said the "man" described the demon as looking like a cross between a very tall, but short-horned Pan-like figure and covered in the fur of a bison, ... and he also said that the 'entity' smelled more putrid than what he had ever smelled before. The "man" also said that the demon's voice sounded like three or four different voices but were all sync'd to say the same things at the same time. He mentioned both Latin and an old form of German was also spoken - other than English. The "man" told Bob that he had messed where he shouldn't have because he truly felt that there was nothing of substance to really believe in, so he went ahead and started researching from old texts at our local University and found some common methods to call forth a physical entity and what their specialties were. The very first time he was confronted was in his own bedroom converted to a 'studio' of sorts with what the old texts he consulted required him to have present to entice the demons to materialize (which he said the demons had a hard time coming forth with limited materials(?)) The "man" did say that the particular demon he had attempted tocall up was that of a higher intelligenced demon who's specialty was revenge. But apparently the demon expected the "caller' to freely and willfully give their spirit and soul to Satan and when he balked (actually pleaded and broke down), the demon supposedly demanded of this "man" 'X' amount of human souls to be converted or killed during specific unholy satanic cermony. If he didn't comply or attemted to flee and hide, he would be immolated when he felt the most safe and protected and soul taken to Satan. where he felt was the most safest place on earth.

    After hearing Bob's account of his initerview with this "man", I was stunned because Bob was as just as down to earth as I was. Did I beleive Bob at the time? N
     
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    Krzy, thanks for sending me a pm to let me know this thread had been moved. Shame on TAPS for being such spoiled sports...and thanks to Tim for being so understanding.
     
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    After hearing Bob's account of his initerview with this "man", I was stunned because Bob was as just as down to earth as I was. Did I beleive Bob at the time? No. Do I beleive him now after almost 25 years? Yes! So, ... for krzymoose to get too close to this entity or attempt to speak or gain confidence with, I would caution against it unless a demonologist was present. One last thing, .... if the demon threatened to self immolate the "man", what can be explained in all those cases of Spontaneous Human Combustion? Could there be a remote connection? Sorry for the long read, but thought I'd interject for stimulating thought.
    -Bad Lieutenant

    Anyway, ... I'd do a whole lot of research and consult various demonologists before I attempted to 'call' an entity up. For as your words ring true,




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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Epona on October 05, 2007, 09:51:54 PM
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    Tiff, Christians are not the only ones who believe that spirits can lie about who they really are.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    So, ... for krzymoose to get too close to this entity or attempt to speak or gain confidence with, I would caution against it unless a demonologist was present.

    Not on my life would I attempt any such thing.... I don't even want to alert this thing that I am seeing it let alone try to strike up a conversation with it! LOL


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Quote from: casper on October 04, 2007, 08:16:32 PM
    Hey Moose been a while since i checked out your story ;D did you move after all? I think the book is a great idea,just make sure you are uncontactable!!! Can you imagine the hoards of frustrated readers wanting to check out your place? :eek: ;)


    Nope...We are still here, still waiting for a buyer. I don't plan on listing the address or location of our property so hopefully it wont be disclosed.


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    I also agree with your warnings about people who want to dabble in this area and have a "paranomal experience". First off, before i get into a lengthy story about a "paranomal experience" i had, i would like to say that i am new to this forum, but i have read all the 27 pages of this, and Krzymoose, you're story has had me captivated for 2 days(i can't normally sit down for long ammounts of time). There is one thing that interested me. You mentioned there was a mine nearby ? About how far away ? And is the entity running to, or away, from it ? I ask because there is a certain entity that comes from mines.

    Now, about my story that i would like to propose as a warning. I just recently came to terms that i know and sense things i really shouldn't. I've had a lot of "experiences" happen to me as a child, and as i grew up, but i never accepted what they were, or what i was. I think I am what those on this forum call "A sensitive". Maybe slightly more, it's hard to actually guage this kind of thing. But due to an actually attack on my spirit(or soul), i came to terms with it, and accept who/what i am. So, with this new acceptance, i wanted some experiences(and i foolishly still do, i admit). Well, there is a nearby graveyard that the FBI has actually been called in to investigate "occultic activity". There were many animal carcases found that had been ritually sacrifices, both in the graveyard, and in the forrest and fields surrounding it. So, i decided one summer day to take a little walk to this graveyard. I've told part of this story before on another thread here, but i will tell it all now.
    So i decide to take a little stroll to this graveyard one fine summer day. It was a very nice day, and even if nothing happens, or i don't see or hear, or feel anything, it's not a waste. I should point out that i am in good health, a 1 mile walk is nothing to me. So I am walking along with my walking stick on my shoulder, enjoying the summer breezes and the pretty trees and fields. When i arrived at the graveyard, i stand outside looking in for a moment, but i sense nothing, and see nothing. So i go inside.
    Inside, i once again, feel nothing. So I immediately walk to the back, and start looking at the tomb stones. Tomb Stones have always fascinated me, and i always read as many as i can when i ever visit grave yards, and i don't consider them a "creepy place" by nature. as the crew on taps isn't weirded out by basements, i'm not weirded out by graveyards. But after walking 2 rows, i begin to get that eerie "someone is watching me feeling". I stop at the big tree in the corner square of the graveyard, and look at it. I have a weird thought come into my head, "This tree feeds off the dead". Just that though makes me want to move on from it. So i walk a few steps, and i find a pair of tomb stones that had had their whole fronts chisled or pecked away. So i kneal down, reach out and touch the stone, and i say, out loud, "this tomb stone has been defaced".
    And instantly i become very dizzy and sick to my stomach. It almost feels like i've drunk too much, or took a ride on the tilt-o-world. I steady myself with my walking stick and the feeling passes. I then move on to the next tomb stone, and being the irrefutable genius that i am, i kneel down, place my hand on the tomb stone, and say, "This tomb stone has been defaced"(i intentionally repeated the exact same words).
    The dizzyness hits me again, this time much worse. I actually loose my balance, fall, and go into dry heaves. I'd have thrown up if i'd eaten before taking my walk. And this goes on for.. i don't know how long, and it doesn't let up. I manage to concentrate enough through the dizzyness and dry heaves to grab my stick and crawl towards the exit. It's a good 50 feet from where i was standing, to the exit, and when you're dizzy and heaving, hardly even breathing, it's hard to even crawl. But i made it out, and it didn't let up even after i crossed the gate. But as i got farther away, it did let up some, and i managed to gain my feet, but i still had to use my stick a lot, and i just kept walking. It wasn't until i was about 3/4 of the way home did the sickness and dizzyness pass completely.
    I write this one down as "Lessons learned", and i stopped actually looking to P-off spirits. I wanted a "paranormal encounter", and i got it. So, take this as a warning from 1st hand experience, unless you are willing to deal with this, or worse(i have to admit i still am, even after this), you may want to be more careful.
    Moose, i think you are very wise in your decission to not make contact, and it doesn't make you a coward in any way. I don't blame you for chosing to move away from your home either, i probably would myself. It's one thing going to a graveyard, or someone elses house to experience these things, but another to have them happen in your own home. I hope things turn out the best for you, and you find a new place to live that is spook-free. I'd even monitor your son still in case "his friends" follow, and then i'd take steps to get rid of them.
    You don't have to tell him this, just hang bells, or chimes, or a cross in his room. Even if you aren't religious, it might work. You could make them a gift, kids love gifts :p I personally have a mistrust of all spirits, and don't rely on how they sound, act, or look. It might look or sound playful, but that can change in the blink of an eye, and personally, why risk it ? I myself don't have my own children, so I don't calculate personal risk quite so much as you would. But anyways, Before this post gets any longer, i'll bow out and wish you the best of luck, and say how much i respect everyone on this forum for giving you as much support as they could. Peace!
    Nathan.

    P.S. I am also an amateur writer, and all i can say is that you don't even have to write in order, just write things as you think of them, or as they come to you, and do the book ordering in the "editing" process.

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    You mentioned there was a mine nearby ? About how far away ? And is the entity running to, or away, from it ? I ask because there is a certain entity that comes from mines.
    I would love to hear more about what it is that comes from the mines...


    We have mines all around us, this being the area of the Gold Rush in California. Closest is only a couple of miles away. I also was sent a link about spirit lines which I found quite interesting and feesable. www.strayreality.com/Lanis_Strayreality ... ericas.htm (http://www.strayreality.com/Lanis_Stray ... ericas.htm) this talks about interdimensional beings and the lines which were made for them to follow.


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    Well, Tommyknockers are spirits that dwell within mines. They are called that because they are known to tap or knock inside mines warning miners of an impending collapse. They are also known to take miners tools, and return lost tools. There have been some stories about them leaving the mines and knocking on the walls and doors of peoples houses. While most stories paint them as short, it's not impossible for them to be tall. And if you said it was running, in all different places, it could be running from mine to mine, or at least trying to. I can't think of anything else that comes from mines off the top of my head, but i'll sleep on it.


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    Well I've heard about Reptoids or the Reptilian beings coming from the underground tunnels and mines. I've never seen one, but my daughters friend drew me an image of something she saw cross her road one nite and it matched to a tee...she was unaware of these things at the time. She lives about a mile from us.... Off Topic..Sorry


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    I've never heard of these reptilian things. But i was just bringing up Tommyknockers because you mentioned hearing a tapping on the walls of your house, and you live close to mines. The running figure you see(saw?) so far hasn't done anything besides run, right ? So, honestly, everything is conjecture at this point.
    Do you know if any miners have been killed in the mines surrounding your neighborhood ? It's not impossible the dark man is running to save someone....


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on October 07, 2007, 02:41:15 PM
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    Quote from: Red_Flint on October 07, 2007, 06:15:01 AM
    I've never heard of these reptilian things. But i was just bringing up Tommyknockers because you mentioned hearing a tapping on the walls of your house, and you live close to mines. The running figure you see(saw?) so far hasn't done anything besides run, right ? So, honestly, everything is conjecture at this point.
    Do you know if any miners have been killed in the mines surrounding your neighborhood ? It's not impossible the dark man is running to save someone....


    I'm not sure about anyone being killled in the mines, but it's probably due to the lack of resources in the gold rush era


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Well, Krazymoose, this story is so fascinating I can't seem to get enough. But, I agree with using caution and being very careful. Never invite evil in.


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    Any updates, KM? Have you seen Vincent lately?


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Quote from: lmorin01 on October 10, 2007, 06:57:56 AM
    Any updates, KM? Have you seen Vincent lately?


    Not for about 2 weeks now.....


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Hummingbird on October 16, 2007, 12:28:57 PM
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    Hey krzymoose, how are things in Cali? I want to tell you that I almost always come to this thread first when I visit the TAPS forum, (which is often). I'm wishing you and your children the best in this whole situation.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: styxx374 on October 19, 2007, 11:34:29 AM
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    Well, just read the entire thread and now I have goosebumps....


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Quote from: styxx374 on October 19, 2007, 11:34:29 AM
    Well, just read the entire thread and now I have goosebumps....


    LOL, i accidently clicked "quote" then "post" before typing out my message.

    But yeah, i'm with you, when i first read this i was hooked on this thread, and i always keep my eye on it for any updates.
    So has Sir Vinnie shown up ? Have you heard anymore strange noises ? Has your son done/said anything yet ?


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Quote from: Hummingbird on October 16, 2007, 12:28:57 PM
    Hey krzymoose, how are things in Cali? I want to tell you that I almost always come to this thread first when I visit the TAPS forum, (which is often). I'm wishing you and your children the best in this whole situation.


    thanks Hummingbird, I really appreciate that. I just returned from a trip up North, so nothing to report right now...


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Quote from: Red_Flint on October 19, 2007, 04:35:37 PM
    Quote from: styxx374 on October 19, 2007, 11:34:29 AM
    Well, just read the entire thread and now I have goosebumps....


    LOL, i accidently clicked "quote" then "post" before typing out my message.

    But yeah, i'm with you, when i first read this i was hooked on this thread, and i always keep my eye on it for any updates.
    So has Sir Vinnie shown up ? Have you heard anymore strange noises ? Has your son done/said anything yet ?


    The only odd thing that my son has said or done lately is his reference to two (2) people/beings whom he says he talks to, one being red and Black and the other being yellow. I have no idea what this means and I certainly haven't seen anything resembling this around the house. He does use a small stuffed monkey to talk for him at times ( I bought for him about 3 years ago after he was attacked by my sisters dog and was hospitalized) who he named spike. Might just be a vivid imagination....


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Spockie on October 20, 2007, 08:11:04 PM
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    <Might just be a vivid imagination....>

    I wouldn't bet on it. I have a feeling his "imaginary" friends are just another part of this whole phenomenon.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on October 21, 2007, 06:31:58 PM
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    I have a friend who lives in Boston who I talk to on a regular basis. She has a unique sense of things happening. Recently she told me to run..not walk...away from this place. Kinda spooked me a bit


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Well, if you're really that uncomfortable with the place, it would be a good idea. If you don't know how to get rid of it, and if it bothers you too much that you can;t ignore it, moving is probably the next best way, but it's no insurance that this will stop. If they're ghosts(and i'm not saying they are), they could just move with your son. And it could very much simply be imagination, however, when i was a kid i had a lot of things happening to me too which i assumed was imagination. I know in my enlightened years that it was more than imagination, and it followed me from house to house.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on October 22, 2007, 12:02:15 AM
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    Quote from: Red_Flint on October 21, 2007, 08:31:22 PM
    Well, if you're really that uncomfortable with the place, it would be a good idea. If you don't know how to get rid of it, and if it bothers you too much that you can;t ignore it, moving is probably the next best way, but it's no insurance that this will stop. If they're ghosts(and i'm not saying they are), they could just move with your son. And it could very much simply be imagination, however, when i was a kid i had a lot of things happening to me too which i assumed was imagination. I know in my enlightened years that it was more than imagination, and it followed me from house to house.

    Honestly I think its just the area, we didn't have any of these issues before I moved up here. so hopefully, whatever it may be will just stay put.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    I've been following this thread for a while now but haven't posted because I didn't feel that I had anything to add. But I do have a question. Did you ask your friend why she told you to "run,not walk" away from your home?

    My daughter has imaginary friends in our house as well. Eight of them to be exact. She says they sometimes go with her to school or to her grandmother's house. My mother even said that she opended the back door of the car so they could go to the store with them. Our home has a lot of PN acitivity and I don't believe these are just imaginary friends. She is 8 and has never had imaginary friends before. The weird part is that she says they live in New York and can describe where they live.

    I personally don't like the fact that she has "imaginary friends" who talk to her. Have you asked your son what he and his "imaginary friends" talk about? My daughter is very secretive about her friends and has told me "they" don't want her to talk to me about them. Which raises a big red flag. I would try talking to your son about his friends and see what he says. That might give you an idea of whether of not they are just his imagination or something more.

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    Quote from: mistressmayfair1 on October 22, 2007, 04:02:17 PM
    I'm not sure of your daughters age (too long a thread to check cuz I'm lazy) but have you tried talking to here through a different medium ....not the spiritual type...lol.... but something like a puppet or stuffed toy?

    Just a suggestion...may not even be appproropriate depending on her age...

    Actually it's not my daughter, (who is 16 btw) It's my youngest son, who is 8. I've tried to talk to him about it, he doesn't say much only that they only talk to him. He made a comment to a friend who was over one day, and made the comment thru "spike" (this little monkey that talks for him sometimes) He told my friend that Spike said they looked like the guy sitting on the sofa and pointed to the end of my couch....funny thing is there wasn't anyone else in the room let alone sitting on the couch. I'm not sure if having imaginary friends are something normal, everyone I have talked to about it said it varies and it isn't necessarily a bad thing.


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    She said that there are too many messages given to me and they seem to be coming more frequently....its' just a gut feeling she has..


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Krazymoose, I am a firm believer in gut feelings!


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    I agree with Kyates about gut feelings. I use them often in my own home. When I enter a room and get a really bad case of the chills and my gut feeling says "leave the room", I leave that room immediatly.

    Do you feel like you are getting messages? It just may be that whatever is there is trying really hard to communicate but you just aren't understanding them, which could be why they are sending them more frequently. Just a thought. I feel that is what is happening in our home, we just aren't understanding them, so the activity picks up.

    m


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on October 23, 2007, 12:47:41 PM
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    Quote from: onetiredmom on October 23, 2007, 09:16:54 AM
    I agree with Kyates about gut feelings. I use them often in my own home. When I enter a room and get a really bad case of the chills and my gut feeling says "leave the room", I leave that room immediatly.

    Do you feel like you are getting messages? It just may be that whatever is there is trying really hard to communicate but you just aren't understanding them, which could be why they are sending them more frequently. Just a thought. I feel that is what is happening in our home, we just aren't understanding them, so the activity picks up.

    m

    I sat down last night and read thru your entire thread! I must say, you are much more brave than I would be. I started out thinking this wouldn't drive my from my home, but when your kids are involved,, its a whole different ballgame. I actually think my 16 yr old has more things happening around her than my 8 yr old boy does, she just tends to ignore it.. Last nite a motion wand she had went off in her room, it had been sitting dormat on her shelf for months, and when she and her friend reached up to grab it after it went off she said there was a major cold spot around it. She doesnt tend to imagine things or dream this stuff up, and frankly wishes she didn't have any part of it, but when she wakes up in the middle of the night and swear there is something in her room looking at her it does tend to make you either git rid of it or leave.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: onetiredmom on October 23, 2007, 01:26:11 PM
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    I don't think I'm braver than you. Look at what you and your family is going through. It's not about being brave, it's about doing what is right for your family, protecting them and finding answers.

    I've thought about moving, but after last night's conversation with Paige about the spirits following us home from SF, I know they will just follow us. So, I'm sticking and am going to find the answers one way or another.

    When it comes to being bravery (sp), you've got it in spades.

    I never thought about a motion detector. I think I'm gonna have to go shopping now. LOL I spend more money lately on equipment to investigate the paranormal than I do on food.

    m


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on October 23, 2007, 02:08:07 PM
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    Quote from: onetiredmom on October 23, 2007, 01:26:11 PM
    I don't think I'm braver than you. Look at what you and your family is going through. It's not about being brave, it's about doing what is right for your family, protecting them and finding answers.

    I've thought about moving, but after last night's conversation with Paige about the spirits following us home from SF, I know they will just follow us. So, I'm sticking and am going to find the answers one way or another.

    When it comes to being bravery (sp), you've got it in spades.

    I never thought about a motion detector. I think I'm gonna have to go shopping now. LOL I spend more money lately on equipment to investigate the paranormal than I do on food.


    You are so right, I still have the strong desire to get answers, but I don't think it will ever come in my case. Learning to live with this is what I have had to do, but then again, none of this started inside my home. I strongly feel that our Vincent has nothing to do with what is happening inside now, which hasn't gotten to the point of scaring me yet but I'm slowly getting there. LOL..I found Ebay to be a great source of equipment without spending a small fortune!
    m



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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: onetiredmom on October 23, 2007, 02:24:19 PM
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    OOOHHH, thanks for the tip.

    And it doesn't matter where it started, you're still living with it. Maybe Vincent made you and your family more sensitive to the PN. Just by your experiences of having seen him, something that in itself is PN. I know I have become more sensitive to the PN simply by living with it. And my children as well.

    I'm hopeful to get some answers for our situation, but I know I will never have ALL the answers for what it going on in our home. I guess that's why they call it PN ;).

    I know all about fear. But it isn't always a bad thing. It becomes bad when you let it rule your life. When all you feel is fear. Learned that one the hard way. But fear can also be good. In my case, when I start to feel scared or get the willies, I know that something bad has come for a visit and to be on my guard, perform the white light more often, get out the sea salt, etc...

    And remember, it's ok to be afraid.

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    i posted a story in the "messenger ghosts" thread about the only time I have been frightened out of my wits. Happened outside my front door shortly after I saw Vincent for the first time. I am ok with it now, but at the time I wouldn't even open the front door to get a piece of wood for my stove. I found out that night why some people say they can be scared to "death"
    While I don't experience that anymore, I am constantly on guard for something unseen.
    I sooo wish you the best of luck in your search for answers!


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Quote from: krzymoose on October 23, 2007, 02:55:21 PM
    iI sooo wish you the best of luck in your search for answers!


    The same goes for me. I wish you and your family the best of luck in finding answers/resolutions to what's happening.

    m


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: kyates7 on October 23, 2007, 05:51:33 PM
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    You are both much braver then I can possibly imagine I could be. I get goosebumps just reading this thread. And you both seem to be handling it very well. I am thinking of you both, and your families, and keeping you in my prayers. Be safe---number one priority!!!


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Bad Lieutenant on October 23, 2007, 06:42:06 PM
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    Hi KrzyMousse! It's been a while since I've chimed in, ;D although, I've been in the shadows reading all the threads from some great and caring members here, ... you have developed quite a support group here, and I can see all of us one day having a BBQ at your place AFTER this entity gets wise and moves on or gets assisted down the road with a little help! hahahaha

    Anyway, ... the reason for my post. With all the helpful threads and no doubt your record keeping you've been doing, ... I'd bet you a ham sandwich on Pumpernickle that if you gave TAPS' office a call in Warwick, they may consider your home and surrounding area for a TV episode. Especially when you have kids and they are apprehensive or even 'latently' afraid of what's coming next. Fear of the unknown is powerful to kids, ... and I believe that's what inhuman entities feed off of. Not saying that's what you have, ... but I really believe that Grant, Jason, Steve, Tango, and the other TAPS pros could expose and put the definitive 'run' on this character 'Vincent'. Your story is so much more compelling than allot of those detailed in their book that I really think they might consider it.

    As always, ... all my best and stay safe!
    -Bad Lieutenant


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: robin on October 24, 2007, 06:51:13 AM
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    Quote from: Bad Lieutenant on October 23, 2007, 06:42:06 PM
    Hi KrzyMousse! It's been a while since I've chimed in, ;D although, I've been in the shadows reading all the threads from some great and caring members here, ... you have developed quite a support group here, and I can see all of us one day having a BBQ at your place AFTER this entity gets wise and moves on or gets assisted down the road with a little help! hahahaha

    Anyway, ... the reason for my post. With all the helpful threads and no doubt your record keeping you've been doing, ... I'd bet you a ham sandwich on Pumpernickle that if you gave TAPS' office a call in Warwick, they may consider your home and surrounding area for a TV episode. Especially when you have kids and they are apprehensive or even 'latently' afraid of what's coming next. Fear of the unknown is powerful to kids, ... and I believe that's what inhuman entities feed off of. Not saying that's what you have, ... but I really believe that Grant, Jason, Steve, Tango, and the other TAPS pros could expose and put the definitive 'run' on this character 'Vincent'. Your story is so much more compelling than allot of those detailed in their book that I really think they might consider it.

    As always, ... all my best and stay safe!
    -Bad Lieutenant

    Well said and I agree, why not give a shot?


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    Quote from: onetiredmom on October 23, 2007, 01:26:11 PM
    I don't think I'm braver than you. Look at what you and your family is going through. It's not about being brave, it's about doing what is right for your family, protecting them and finding answers.

    I've thought about moving, but after last night's conversation with Paige about the spirits following us home from SF, I know they will just follow us. So, I'm sticking and am going to find the answers one way or another.

    When it comes to being bravery (sp), you've got it in spades.

    I never thought about a motion detector. I think I'm gonna have to go shopping now. LOL I spend more money lately on equipment to investigate the paranormal than I do on food.

    m


    one of my friends moved a couple times and his ghst (Emma) goes with him everywhere, she protects him and his family and is a very active character... always friendly and makes you feel safe... TOOOOTALLY creeped me out but I got used to it and if she started moving doors and walking around we just asked her to go to bed for the night cuz we were tired, lol... Plus, she protected one of my other friends who had a serious problem at her own house, ghostly wars are weird.... i dunno... long stories that i could share and one of these days i will post the stories on here, just havent had the time or energy... Good luck, and if its still a serious problem, (this is slightly unorthodox and also slightly hazardous) have your son take a marker or crayon and a nice long sheet of craft paper, put the writing utensil in his off hand, close his eyes, and then ask him questions that you want answered... ghost writing really connects the entity to the person but if he is already talking to it, then it shouldnt do any harm... i used to ghost write, it just feels really cold on your arm and hand and afterwards its a little stiff... kids are harder to deal with, its slightly tramatic... i only read the last page so i dont know what else was suggested before the motion detectors and whatnot but, that might work... i dont know if it will but if you video tape it while it happens, its better proof... Good luck and stay safe.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on October 25, 2007, 12:01:55 AM
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    Quote from: Bad Lieutenant on October 23, 2007, 06:42:06 PM
    Hi KrzyMousse! It's been a while since I've chimed in, ;D although, I've been in the shadows reading all the threads from some great and caring members here, ... you have developed quite a support group here, and I can see all of us one day having a BBQ at your place AFTER this entity gets wise and moves on or gets assisted down the road with a little help! hahahaha

    Anyway, ... the reason for my post. With all the helpful threads and no doubt your record keeping you've been doing, ... I'd bet you a ham sandwich on Pumpernickle that if you gave TAPS' office a call in Warwick, they may consider your home and surrounding area for a TV episode. Especially when you have kids and they are apprehensive or even 'latently' afraid of what's coming next. Fear of the unknown is powerful to kids, ... and I believe that's what inhuman entities feed off of. Not saying that's what you have, ... but I really believe that Grant, Jason, Steve, Tango, and the other TAPS pros could expose and put the definitive 'run' on this character 'Vincent'. Your story is so much more compelling than allot of those detailed in their book that I really think they might consider it.

    As always, ... all my best and stay safe!

    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
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    UPDATE

    Well "Vincent" was out and about early this afternoon. I was standing on the edge of my deck and leaning over looking at the side yard when he appeared down the main road as always.... I got a couple seconds longer look at him this time and after giving it much thought and scratching my head in my normal state of confusion...I think I might have been wrong about a couple of things. I'm not so sure that he is running, today it seemed almost as if he is riding something, possibly a horse....but the horse isnt visible. (does this make any sense at all??) To me this explains why I can't see his feet and his odd movements which sort of match up to a fast riding style. It also would explain his extreme height being about 8 ft tall. His odd shape of head/hair could possibly by somekind of head-dress, possilby native american which is what I have been thinking lately. I'll report more as I need to roll this about in my head some more and hopefully see him again with this in mind.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Jenniboo on October 31, 2007, 04:41:54 PM
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    I think it's great that you were armed with some real calm logical thinking by now since you've been prepared for your next "visit." It makes great sense that it's a person on a horse. That would explain why it's on the road, and most of the other mysterious things you've described. I've read lots of this thread, but, haven't posted. It's been fun.

    Thanks! And, good job keeping a cool head and doing some rational thinking. It seems as though you're getting closer to the truth just by using your own common sense. How can someone not love the paranormal? It's like the ultimate mystery...but, sometimes you get some small successes in figuring things out to your satisfaction.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: onetiredmom on October 31, 2007, 04:44:31 PM
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    KM,

    Just checking in, wishing you and your family and safe and happy Halloween. I think it's great that you are getting closer to some answers. Let us know what conclusions you come to.

    m


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: shinglo13806 on November 01, 2007, 04:33:02 AM
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    Could 'Vincent' be one of those frenchman in the early days of the English/Spanish wars??

    Just a tought...


    -Bad Lieutenant

    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Iavas on November 01, 2007, 10:39:06 AM
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    Hi, KM. I scanned through the 30 pages worth of Vincent updates and found it all very curious. I wish you the best of luck with it.

    I do want to point out that I tried listening to the two recordings you posted and could not get through more than a few seconds without having to turn them off. The reason? There is a constant high-pitched sound in both of them. I'm guessing around 17-20kHz from previous experience. The thing is, my hearing is better in the higher frequencies, but the ones above 17kHz give me headaches. Most people I've talked to don't notice anything above 15kHz tops. In the case of your recordings, I'm not sure if this was just a byproduct of the process or if there was actually that sound present. It might be interference from nearby electrical equipment or wires. It might also be one of those boxes that scare away birds and pests through 'ultrasnoic' sounds (God, I hate those things!). Anyway, I'm not sure if that information is at all useful, but I thought you might be interested..


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Scortch on November 01, 2007, 11:58:27 AM
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    Windego?


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: billyguitar on November 01, 2007, 01:13:54 PM
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    I'm sure my old musician ears can't hear that high but I'd be surprised if her audio equipment could hear that high either. There certainly isn't much going on in that band.

    Our local tribe are the Miwoks. Someone very helpful sent me this link about spirit lines which I found quite interesting as it talks about our local tribe and the Calif. Sierra's where I am located. Also, interestingly enough is the village where these were allegedly created is located on the road which backs up to our property and is within walking distance... hmmmmhttp://www.strayreality.com/Lanis_ ... ericas.htm (http://www.strayreality.com/Lanis_Stray ... ericas.htm)


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: styxx374 on November 02, 2007, 12:30:27 PM
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    Quote from: krzymoose on November 02, 2007, 12:29:26 PM
    Quote from: styxx374 on November 02, 2007, 12:02:01 PM
    Quote from: onlyelise on November 02, 2007, 11:42:08 AM
    That is so interesting that maybe Vincent's riding a horse.... that would explain so much!


    Yes, that IS interesting. What types of Natives lived in your area?


    Our local tribe are the Miwoks. Someone very helpful sent me this link about spirit lines which I found quite interesting http://www.strayreality.com/Lanis_Stray ... ericas.htm (http://www.strayreality.com/Lanis_Stray ... ericas.htm)


    Oh my God! That first paragraph just gives me the chills! That fits Vincent, doesn't it!?


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on November 02, 2007, 12:34:08 PM
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    Quote from: shinglo13806 on November 01, 2007, 04:33:02 AM
    Could 'Vincent' be one of those frenchman in the early days of the English/Spanish wars??

    Just a tought...

    don't quote me on this, but I really don't think we had any of that happening around this area, the frenchman anyways.... Our area is mostly known for the gold rush era and early mining.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on November 02, 2007, 12:39:25 PM
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    Our local tribe are the Miwoks. Someone very helpful sent me this link about spirit lines which I found quite interesting http://www.strayreality.com/Lanis_Stray ... ericas.htm (http://www.strayreality.com/Lanis_Stray ... ericas.htm)
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    Oh my God! That first paragraph just gives me the chills! That fits Vincent, doesn't it!?
    [/quote]

    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Hummingbird on November 03, 2007, 04:13:41 AM
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    It really does seem to fit your situation. It just fascinates me, once again I have learned about one more supernatural phenomenon that I never knew existed.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Kari Breed on November 03, 2007, 01:45:56 PM
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    Hey Moose,

    I looked at pictures of Miwoks, and they certainly had thick hair and low foreheads that fit your drawing. Also, I can see how those legs could be horses forelegs if you didn't have a long look at the figure.

    Check into a book called Your Life as a Story by Tristine Rainer if you want a great guide to help with the memoir.




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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: kyates7 on November 05, 2007, 06:17:16 AM
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    That web site is very interesting. Sure seems to be a possible link to your Vincent sightings. I can't wait for more info on the Miwoks. I have never heard of that tribe before.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: mom2jad on November 05, 2007, 12:07:35 PM
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    It would be great if you could talk to Miwok descendants ( if there are any?) and get their opinion on Vincent. I'm sure they would be very open to the whole paranormal thing. Maybe there's a local historian that could give you some info too. Just a thought :)


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Bad Lieutenant on November 05, 2007, 05:19:22 PM
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    Quote from: mom2jad on November 05, 2007, 12:07:35 PM
    It would be great if you could talk to Miwok descendants ( if there are any?) and get their opinion on Vincent. I'm sure they would be very open to the whole paranormal thing. Maybe there's a local historian that could give you some info too. Just a thought :)


    Hey Gang, ... this link might help. Found it in a Copernic meta search. Check out this website and I'll bet the farm someone will be able to put yuou in contact with a tribal or band member who may be a historian of sorts that could assist. Best of luck to all. (You'll have to Copy and Paste this link)
    http://www.ionemiwok.org/

    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Rebeccah on November 25, 2007, 09:18:49 AM
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    Hi Krzymoose,
    I've just read your story and definately wanted to respond to you and to maybe offer a theory I've heard to other readers as well.
    Do you watch that show called "A Haunting" that comes on Disc. channel on weekdays? It's a very interesting show based upon true stories where people move into homes only to discover strange paranormal activities going on in their house. Some are on businesses.
    Anyway, one of these particular shows I watched involved "shadow people."
    The whole story was a reenactment to portray the original characters who experienced this. To make a long story short, the mother on the show was a policewoman who also taught classes on "spirit" phenomena. Her husband was an expert in the field of demonology and would answer some of the student's questions when they would pertain to that field.
    The original policewoman quoted on the show something about "shadow people" though, and had mentioned a truth that she knew due to her knowledge on the subject and because of personal experience.
    While she had taught this class she was also part of a group that investigated claims on hauntings. They decided to investigate a cemetary in the area known for it's history of ghost complaints. At first she was a little skeptical because most of the claims were by people who'd go out there at night for the main purpose of getting scared.
    Well, she thought it would be harmless to bring her teenage son along with the group. The group split up into different parts of the cemetary to investigate that night. (I wish I could recall where this was). Her son was lended a pair of dousing rods and while using them, found himself separated from his mom. It was then that he saw a tall, black, figure running by that disappeared behind a large grave stone. In the reenactment, it ran that same strange way. He called out for his mom who finally found him scared to death and trying to sputter out what he'd seen. His mother took a couple of pictures in that direction--nothing came out later. But while they were standing there together they suddenly started hearing footsteps closing in on all sides of them, though they couldn't see anything. The rest of the group hadn't experienced anything.
    Over the months, this ladie's son began changing, his grades failing, stealing and hiding a pair of his mother's diamond earrings to not remember anything about it later, though he had always been against theft.
    Anyway, when it got to the point that he was being scratched bloody by an unseen force and paranormal things began happening in their house, his parents, esp. the one who was a demonologist, realized that all of the signs pointed to demonic infestation. They were able to talk him into seeing an independent exorcist in another state who was able to rid of the demon, which caused their son and their lives to go back to normal.
    The mother on this show stated what she knew about these "shadow people." For some reason, there are growing reports about these pretty recently discovered entities, that although they are mysterious in some aspects that there is evidence to suggest that they are dangerous and not benevolent in nature, and that they could even be demonic.
    Strangely, I've been hearing this more and more, and it would be interesting to find out what they're doing here in these particular times, and what their purpose is. I can definately understand the curiosity. Just be
    careful and be on guard.--Rebeccah


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: whatsherface on November 25, 2007, 12:54:09 PM
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    I get deja vu a lot but it aint nothing special. I was probably drawn to that picture because I had been reading about it all day on this thread.
    I do understand some where you are coming from. I wouldn't mind having a nice experience but as long as it isn't where I live or stay. I would say it is cool you are expericing this but it's not cool if it is causing you problems and stress.
    My two cents on this is though, like you said about it being an indian, it probably is. Seems logical right? Living where an Indian villiage probably was and what not.
    I do wanna say I hope everything gets better for you and those imaginery friends your son talks to are imaginery or at least nice spirits.
    I hope everything goes more smoothly for you and that house sells soon if that is what you are wanting! Good luck and just relax as much as possible.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on November 25, 2007, 10:51:58 PM
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    Thanks for that Whatsherface, I appreciate your warm wishes.

    Rebecca, I did see a portion of that program, I didn't see the entire show but recall the woman being a police woman and her son being possessed by something he saw on a ghosthunt. I didn't realize it was a shadow person..now you have peeked my interest and I must find that program and sit thru it all.. Ive always felt that if you open your mind to things it opens a door which can sometimes be mistaken as an invitation for unwanted things, so before this happened to me I usually strayed away from anything dealing with the paranormal or demonology. Heck, I didn't even start watching ghosthunters until this happened, now I plop myself down every wednesday for the entire show. Thanks for posting and giving me another outlet to research. Happy Holidays!

    As I said in the beginning of this thread, we only named him Vincent because we grew tired of finding a word which we could refer to him as......thus giving him a name we knew what we were talking about. Thats all. If he was demonic, wouldn't he be trying somehow to interact with us? He hasn't entered our home or even looked our way.


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: Jenniboo on December 01, 2007, 07:45:54 PM
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    I can't remember if somewhere in the thread you said that the p/n investigators said it was residual. Or, did they just investigate your house, and not where the Vincent sightings are? It sounds like a residual horse-rider to me. Did the psychic they brought from Texas offer any answers?


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on December 01, 2007, 10:21:07 PM
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    Quote from: Jenniboo on December 01, 2007, 07:45:54 PM
    I can't remember if somewhere in the thread you said that the p/n investigators said it was residual. Or, did they just investigate your house, and not where the Vincent sightings are? It sounds like a residual horse-rider to me. Did the psychic they brought from Texas offer any answers?

    The P/N investigators didn't say as they never got a glimpse of him and they psychic felt it was interdimensional and felt there were possibly 2 beings. The sensitive who came here with the group at one point, who didn't have any prior information about our case, felt an opening or portal of sort down the road where we see him. He also felt strongly to a native american connection. Interesting....


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on December 19, 2007, 02:00:23 AM
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    UPDATE

    Well with the onset of the rainy season, we have been having a rash of sightings. I spoke with the paranormal investigators recently and they, hopefully, will be coming back up to check it out. Vincent, for some reason, likes the rainy weather...I haven't been able to connect it yet, but I am keeping a complete journal on every incident as suggested by Bad L.
    I did finally do a complete walk thru on the lower half of my property which consists of heavy brush and forestry, and found some interesting locations that I really want the group to take a look at. Specifically a couple areas which are unusually high and rounded and appears out of the ordinary like someone at some point was digging in the ground I'll post when I have more info..

    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: turtlepirate on January 04, 2008, 12:29:54 PM
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    I'm new here and have your your story front to back. I must say it seems pretty frightening what your going through as I have a baby boy of my own. Your story of Vincent gave me deja vu though, he reminds me of a very elusive creature from one of my videogames. (http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/2992/cactuarfp6.gif) (http://imageshack.us)
    Cactuar from Final Fantasy, right? My all time fav game.

    Krzymoose,

    It's been awhile since I've posted here, sorry to hear you are still having problems. I'm glad the investigators haven't given up and are coming back out. Hopefully they will be able to get you some answers soon.

    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: MikesWench on January 10, 2008, 12:40:27 PM
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    Okay, I found this thread a few days ago and have read all 36 pages of it off and on when I've had time. I am totally intrigued by your sightings Krazy Moose and it's like a mystery novel that I must find out the ending to. I have a few ideas of my own that I'd like to throw out there.

    It does seem logical that it could be a native American to me. Maybe the unusual pompadour look of his hair is a type of mohawk?

    This is the thing that really came to mind when you decided he looks to be riding on a horse. What if he is a Pony Express rider STILL DELIVERING MAIL AFTER ALL THESE YEARS?

    As you probably know, the Pony Express went right over the Sierra Nevadas from Nevada into Cali toward Sacramento and eventually San Fran. Here is a blurb I copied from the internet on it:

    A distance of almost 2000 miles, the route of the Pony Express was brutally simple: west out of St. Joseph, the eastern portion of the route followed the Oregon Trail from Kansas through what is now Nebraska and Wyoming. The rider would pass by many of the landmarks then familiar to thousands of overland travelers.

    Proceeding up the Little Blue River to Fort Kearney, the route then continued up the Platte River passing Courthouse Rock, Chimney Rock, and Scotts Bluff to Fort Laramie; then along the Sweetwater River passing Independence Rock, Devil's Gate, and Split Rock, to Fort Caspar, through South Pass to Fort Bridger and Salt Lake City, across the Great Basin and Utah-Nevada Desert, skirting Lake Tahoe, over the rugged Sierra Nevada mountains into California as fast as man and horse could go, day and night. The entire trip of the Pony Express would be completed in 10 days cutting the time of mail and news delivery to the west coast by more than half. No wonder for all the excitement that it generated at the time!

    Just a thought, but Krazy, do you perhaps live in the vicinity of the Pony Express route?


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    Title: Re: I have No Earthly Idea what this is........
    Post by: krzymoose on January 12, 2008, 07:05:35 AM
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    Quote from: ca112281 on January 10, 2008, 06:41:58 AM
    Residual hauntings will stand whereever they were standing when they were alive. If that floor of a house, or hill is gone they'll appear to be floating or legless or in your case, taller. That's why people talk about seeing apparitions walk through walls, because most likely that wall wasn't there when the person was alive.

    Edit:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzBDJq9xkYo - Hurdler

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7_XijIrm4E - Bareback Horse Racing

    I don't really see the resemblance. But maybe I'm missing something here. I provided the links for others to judge.

    Thanks for the links....but I am still grasping at straws...
     
  10. styxx374

    styxx374 Residual

    so, when do we get to see vincent?
     
  11. master_T

    master_T Poltergeist

    Wow this is the first time that I have seen Noah's rendition of Vincent. What strikes me as odd are the claws, and the teeth or blood that are peering out of the characters mouth.

    Still believe that this could be a bear shaman.
     
  12. krzymoose

    krzymoose Residual

    I think his drawing is a combination of what he saw and how he feels about it.... Cuz I don't see any blood, fangs or claws on Vincent lol
     
  13. master_T

    master_T Poltergeist

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    this was passed on to me from chris, hoping that this is what you saw.

    [​IMG]
     
  14. krzymoose

    krzymoose Residual

    OMG Tim :shock: I hope I never see something like that lol
     
  15. master_T

    master_T Poltergeist

    if you did i don't know how you are still sane..lol
     
  16. Fluers du Mal

    Fluers du Mal Residual

    I am still researching this subject and am determined to find something more. There is something so familiar about Vincent, but I can't put my finger on it. I know others have mentioned this too. It is so fascinating for us, but I know it is stressful for you krzymoose. We are behind you 100%.
     
  17. krzymoose

    krzymoose Residual

    To any new members, most of the evidence from last Saturdays investigation is under the "discuss the investigation" area on the forum....
    Welcome!
     
  18. krzymoose

    krzymoose Residual

    Welcome to the LiveSciFi board Fluers! I'm so happy to see you here!
     
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  19. squirlz

    squirlz Residual

    thanks for sending me over here, miss moose 8)
     
  20. krzymoose

    krzymoose Residual

    My pleasure, I'm sure you'll find this board very interesting....and somewhat humorous at times lol
     

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